Separate toilet and shower rooms in a new build

[Deleted User]

For some reason all houses in the UK seem to have a combined bothroom with toilet and shower. I much prefer having them in separate rooms.

Anyone tried to get that arrangement in a new build? I'm guessing that it's going to cost a lot more, any idea how much more? Anyone asked for something similar, like a "wet room"?

davidmcn

What sort of properties are you looking at? I would say most newbuilds these days have an additional toilet, either as a downstairs one (which I think is an accessibility requirement in building regulations) and/or as an en suite to at least one of the bedrooms. Doubt any big builders will be interested in providing you a significantly different arrangement to their norm.

[Deleted User]

Oh, you think they would refuse outright to even consider changes?

Doozergirl

DELETED USER wrote:

Oh, you think they would refuse outright to even consider changes?

A major developer, without doubt.

Even as a small developer, I doubt they would, for the precise reason that no one really wants it.

You're buying a product like a car when you buy from a developer. You can change a few add ons, but you can't change the structure. Don't be under the illusion that they're building a house for you, they're building it to a formula, for money.

[Deleted User]

Hi,


would've thought if you are getting your own plans drawn up you can design it any way you want.

[Deleted User]

Doozergirl wrote: »

A major developer, without doubt.

Even as a small developer, I doubt they would, for the precise reason that no one really wants it.

You're buying a product like a car when you buy from a developer. You can change a few add ons, but you can't change the structure. Don't be under the illusion that they're building a house for you, they're building it to a formula, for money.

I don't mean massive structural alterations to the house, I mean maybe convert the en-suite into just a shower room / wet room by removing the toilet.

The toilets they install are usually rubbish anyway, no bidet function or self-cleaning etc!

coffeehound

Separate bathroom and shower room would also imply it should be possible to use both at the same time, which would in turn require beefed-up plumbing and water heating capacity.

Edit: oh you just mean separate loo.

Doozergirl

DELETED USER wrote:

I don't mean massive structural alterations to the house, I mean maybe convert the en-suite into just a shower room / wet room by removing the toilet.

The toilets they install are usually rubbish anyway, no bidet function or self-cleaning etc!

I still doubt it. They work to templates and always upon the assumption that the buyer will not complete the transaction. Everything has to have mass market appeal.

You'll find those 'rubbish' toilets are installed in 99.9999% of WCs and don't cost £2k plus. Even my multi-millionaire client has only one in one of his houses.

But there is a level between a developer loo and a Japanese style toilet.

[Deleted User]

Doozergirl wrote: »

You'll find those 'rubbish' toilets are installed in 99.9999% of WCs and don't cost £2k plus. Even my multi-millionaire client has only one in one of his houses.

99% of new toilets sold in Japan are washlets. Once you get used to a nice warm seat and having your bum washed you never want to go back...

Surprised they haven't started mandating them yet, they save a lot of water (better flush mechanism) and toilet paper, and apparently make the waste water easier to process.

AFF8879 wrote: »

I hate for example how all new build flats (at least in London) have a combined kitchen and living room

I would never buy a house/flat like that. Can't hear the TV when someone is cooking or washing up. Completely useless.

PasturesNew

A house is what it is.

If you catch it early enough in the build it's possible to have changes made, which might/might not cost you extra.

Generally speaking, developers build houses that make them the most profit - and owners spend the next 50 years butchering them round to their own ideas/budget as the house doesn't work for them

Doozergirl

DELETED USER wrote:

99% of new toilets sold in Japan are washlets. Once you get used to a nice warm seat and having your bum washed you never want to go back...

Surprised they haven't started mandating them yet, they save a lot of water (better flush mechanism) and toilet paper, and apparently make the waste water easier to process.

We're not in Japan and there's a whole other raft of better energy saving measures that need to be mandated before four figure toilets. Things that will give a much greater return.

You are, of course, free to replace whatever bog standard £50 toilet they provide with one of your choice.