Converting a existing old 2 storey OUTBUILDING to 2 flats to rent out

royjones321

Where did you get this info from ?

SlimS

If you want to split your utilities to the shed then you will need a new address registered (but can get away with just using letters after your house number).

The council will defo want to collect council tax from it so it will need to be registered.

You might be able to get away with it all illegally but if tenants flag anything or god forbid anything happen that’s a big liability.

If your Negbiour has done it best to ask him. Please let us know how he did it as might be something that I’m not aware off.

The building control requirements are tuff for converting flats. Fire and sound testing will be your key two for a conversion. (Air for a new build too).

royjones321

Nice. What if I say im using it as a anexxe and rent it out separately. So after 4 years I can apply lawful consent ?

diggingdude

Why not just be honest and do it properly?

royjones321

And to be honest . How would council ever know? They can’t force there way in? I’m sure if you never opened the door ? They would never know ��

p00hsticks

royjones321 wrote: »

And to be honest . How would council ever know? They can’t force there way in? I’m sure if you never opened the door ? They would never know ��

Because if you're going to rent it out, sooner or later your tenants will want to get thenselves on the electoral roll, or apply for some sort of benefits, or even just have an proper address at which to receive deliveries - at which point the various authorities will become aware.

Doozergirl

There's no helping some people.

You have not spoken to a single soul at your council and yet you're trying to work out how to get under the radar. Why? Needing planning permission doesn't mean you won't get it.

It's easier and less stressful in the long run to do things properly. You also have responsibility as a landlord to keep your tenants safe. If something awful happens because you've created 'beds in a shed' without proper regard to regard to building regulations, you will be up in court on manslaughter charges.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/18/landlord-failed-fit-smoke-alarms-jailed-deaths-young-boys-house/

The onus on the landlord here was minimal because the house was already existing and so the building regulations only apply to the original house and subsequent alterations. If you create a dwelling, it needs to comply to the current regulations, which would insist on decent wiring that didn't allow a fire to happen in the first place.

Being a landlord is not just about bringing money in. You have a duty of care to people.

Davesnave

royjones321 wrote: »

Doing bit of research Iv found its kind of impossible to get permission on outbuildings to rent as a separate dwelling. Very unlikely they will give it.

Where did you get this crazy notion? Right next to me I have 12 properties that were converted from redundant outbuildings. Some are owned and some are rented out.

I have a 60' outbuilding too. Under the regulations nowadays, it might be made into a residential property, because the council has to allow the creation of some new homes in this area. I can't see any reason why my outbuilding wouldn't get permission, because all the services are on-site, including a road, but every case is judged on its merits.

I think that's what you're worried about; you think there is something wrong with your building, or more likely, the site, which hasn't been described to us.


Or, alternatively, you haven't enough money to fund the conversion, unless you go under the radar and do a lash-up, instead of complying with building regulations.

As explained, the chances of renting out non-legally regulateded, badly converted accommodation and staying undetected are very poor. Once the council know ,and the building is non-compliant, you can forget any '4 year or 10 year rules;' you'll have a white elephant on your hands and possibly a criminal record, depending on what happens to the tenants and the proceeds.

royjones321

The outbuilding is actually bigger than the actual
House . It’s because it’s on a city with surrounding terraced houses . I have called some architects and they said no chance best thing is to convert to anexxe. Outbuilding to rent as a separate dwelling is hard. All the people I’ve spoken to have a look have refused . This is in the city

royjones321

But isn’t my outbuilding already residential? Having look at the buildings history in the 80s it was used as a library and mini cafe