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I want to use well in garden to water plants

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  • Ganga
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    dllive wrote: »
    Thanks for all the replies. Very helpful.

    Im starting from square one, so please bare with me:

    1) What do you mean 'priming' the pump?
    2) For now, I just need a basic submersible pump that I can attach my hose to. Its only going to be used in the summer months to water the garden with.
    3) Would it help if I uploaded some photos to give you a better idea of what Im working with? I can do this tomorrow.

    Many thanks

    Most pumps need water in them to work so you will have to prime the pump shown with water thru the discharge hose coupling,once you switch off the water will seep back out of the pump and next time you come to use it you will have to Prime it again.

    If using a submersible pump just tie a rope or chain to it and suspend it off the bottom of the well so it pulls less/no solids thru it.

    KEEP THE WELL COVERED ,so a child cannot fall in.:eek:
  • Mistral001
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    edited 29 July 2019 at 11:32AM
    Putting a hose down a well occasionally seems to be dangerous to me. You need to get the pump and its plumbing installed permanently. Pets, and children can and do fall down wells.

    When I was a kid we used to have a well of about the same depth and there was an electric pump which was located under the sink in the kitchen. So this is not new technology. If they can do this 50 years ago, they can do it now.

    BTW the only time the well cover was off, was when the well was filled in after getting the mains water supply installed
  • in_my_wellies
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    edited 29 July 2019 at 11:47AM
    I second getting a proper cover. At my last house, built 1908 there was a well in the back yard. Foundations for a 1970s extension had been built across 1/3 of the edge and a backdoor over this.
    We added a second floor to the extension and in doing so changed the position of the back door. To everyone's horror the well had been 'capped' with two pieces of standard thickness hardboard just laid across the top. No wood, no metal, no rubble. It was rotten and could have given way at any time. We could have walked out of the backdoor into a 15'+ deep hole. Beautiful and interesting brickwork but we had it properly filled and capped

    My house now also has a well with an old fashioned pump. I do use it for the garden but have no idea how it works - I'm just happy that it does. Good luck OP
    Love living in a village in the country side
  • dllive
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    Heres a link to download a few photos to illustrate the situation. (in one theres a measuring tape showing that the water level is about 1.7m below ground level): https://we.tl/t-bcSCD3CJjX
    Thanks
  • snowcat75
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    dllive wrote: »
    Heres a link to download a few photos to illustrate the situation. (in one theres a measuring tape showing that the water level is about 1.7m below ground level): https://we.tl/t-bcSCD3CJjX
    Thanks

    Water level wont stay at 1.7m though and will soon drop to water table, some wells will dry up quickly others never depends on how well there built.

    You first need to know the total depth of the well brick on a string and drop it in, extraction is normally taken from half a meter or so above the silt of the well.


    Even though your only watering in the summer (when the bulk of extractions are done) I cant understand bodging it, borehole pump here £73 job done buy a second impeller 10 years of service that will give you the pressure and flow you need.


    A DECENT submersible that isn't the right tool for the job will cost you that, and be limited on pressure and struggle with the head unless your in zero pressure, You can pipe up on MDPE in a couple of hours and cap the top of the well and not go back.
  • Mistral001
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    dllive wrote: »
    Heres a link to download a few photos to illustrate the situation. (in one theres a measuring tape showing that the water level is about 1.7m below ground level): https://we.tl/t-bcSCD3CJjX
    Thanks

    The old water extraction pipe appears to be still there. This probably leads in a direct line to where the mains water presently enters the house. Hence you might be able to uncover it somewhere just below ground level and connect into it. It would avoid having to use a submersible pump with an electrical cable and new pipe inside the well.
  • dllive
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    Thanks.

    The well is 15 feet deep.

    Again, Im starting from square 1 so bare with me. :)
    1) Whats the second impeller for? Extra water intake? Or a spare?
    2) How do you attached the hose to it? Jubillee clip?

    Cheers!
  • dllive
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    Mistral001 wrote: »
    The old water extraction pipe appears to be still there. This probably leads in a direct line to where the mains water presently enters the house. Hence you might be able to uncover it somewhere just below ground level and connect into it. It would avoid having to use a submersible pump with an electrical cable and new pipe inside the well.

    If I were to do that - what pump would I need?
  • Mistral001
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    edited 29 July 2019 at 2:26PM
    dllive wrote: »
    If I were to do that - what pump would I need?

    I am not an expert but the well shown in the pictures is almost exactly the same as the well I remember as a child. I remember my father allowing me to peep into it just before it was filled in. It provided drinking water for the house and your well, no doubt, was at one time also used for this purpose.


    I assume that it was just an ordinary centrifugal pump that is needed. I think these need primed, but only when they are connected. You would need to have a completely watertight, properly plumbed-in extraction pipe for the head of water to be maintained all the time though, otherwise you might have to prime the pump each time you use it. Not an expert in pumps. There are what are called self-priming pumps.
  • snowcat75
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    edited 29 July 2019 at 9:46PM
    dllive wrote: »
    Thanks.

    The well is 15 feet deep.

    Again, Im starting from square 1 so bare with me. :)
    1) Whats the second impeller for? Extra water intake? Or a spare?
    2) How do you attached the hose to it? Jubillee clip?

    Cheers!

    In time impellers wear in any pump more so in gritty conditions, borehole pumps have very easy to replace impellers/circlip base removes new set in and away they go.. As like most things in a few years time unless your buying branded parts will disappear so its worth buying a set of spares and putting them away till needed.

    You would plumb the pump if you didn't want to use steal on MDPE


    and just then buy the suitable fittings 1"male bsp coupler to pipe a couple of elbows and a tap, which you could reduce from the 1" to 1/2" bsp for your hose.


    Quite a few pumps will come with an inline flow switch and control box (circa £25 more) once fitted the pump will automatically start when the taps on and shut off when closed, a good idea because dead ending these pumps is generally bad news.

    whole setup around £150, if your on a water meter your be in the black by the end of the first season.
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