PCN from Parking Control Management

intex310

Good afternoon all!

I was just thinking if anyone can help me to appeal the ticket for parking in lot without a permit! Apparently, my friend came to drop some food in one of the late evenings where I live. I understand it is a council parking area managed by a private company. They only issue one permit per household. Unaware of the permits required, he just dropped off the food at mine and was surprised to find a ticket after half an hour's time. I really feel sorry about the whole issue.

There are signs around the lot but 3/4 of them been redacted with a black paint and hasn't been maintained until today by the concerned company who wishes to issue these tickets.

I have managed to upload the pics of the pcn and the signs displayed from the lot. Please advise.

Best,

https://imgur.com/a/8Gh39eT

Coupon-mad

It's PCM. Scum ex clamper firm, and not worthy of paying 60p let alone sixty quid.

You live somewhere with horrible PCM infesting the place? You can't have visitors then. Horrible situation.

Anyway tell the friend that no-one with a brain and a conscience funds & sponsors PCM's scam by paying them. However there is NO APPEAL worth him trying.

Does the friend own the car/is the registered keeper on the V5C?

The only danger is if it's a hire/lease company car because PCM will get DVLA data next month and send a threatogram to the registered keeper. So if that car is not his then he might have an issue and find a lease firm just pays it and bills him.

I have one other suggestion - a trick that might work v the clearly stupid PCM who were outed on Watchdog for 'making it up' when answering appeals:

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2015/05/is-it-pcm-uk-who-make-up-stuff-all-time.html

As you feel so bad, how about YOU appeal as resident, online this week (seeing as it's dated 12th), with something like:

Dear PCM,

re PCN xxxxxxxx

I wish to dispute the PCN issued to VRN xxxx xxx at my estate where I live. Your conduct in issuing PCNs and harassing residents and visitors with predatory tactics is blighting the estate and I will complain to the Managing Agent (Housing Association?).

Your signs are atrocious and no contract was formed. The driver will not be named and handed the PCN to me, hence this appeal. The driver was dropping some food at the flat and the case of Jopson v Homeguard, heard at Oxford Court on appeal in 2016, has already established that the likes of parking firms cannot override rights of way and easements.

The right to load/unload is not 'entering into a parking agreement' and the Senior Circuit Judge remarked that 'life in a block of flats would be unworkable' if all deliveries resulted in a parking charge alleging a contract existed in the minutes taken to temporarily unload.

I see you were exposed on Watchdog a while back, for 'making it up' regarding appeals replies. I look forward to your effort this time.

yours faithfully,


Your name
Your postal address at the estate


The point being, YOU will get the rejection letter and can then appeal to the IAS pointing out that you are neither the keeper not the driver and PCM have assumed you were (you'd need to include proof at that 2nd stage).

If the IAS were stupid enough not to uphold an appeal from someone who is neither the keeper nor the driver, and has never driven that car, then you woudl get a court claim but would have an absolute defence on lack of liability.

Warning - if you do the above little trick to try to kill it and it doesn't work then the scammers have 6 years to file a court claims ad will use your current address, even if you later moved, because they are scumbags. So, you would need to keep a file of all the letters just in case AND email their Data Protection bod to tell them (and keep proof of submission) about any new address for service and insist the old one is erased, as is your right.

The above is not complicated and the trick might work. You would have to avoid ticking 'driver/keeper' in the PCM appeal page if it asks.

intex310

Thank you Coupon-mad!

Will do exactly as you think is right.

Best!

The_Deep

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams so get your friend complain to his/her MP.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

intex310

I have just received the response from PCM UK asking me to get a consent from the Driver. Attached a copy of this in a link here.

https://imgur.com/a/vHKhyUr

My friend is a registered keeper of the vehicle.

Hope to hear from you all.

Best,
Intex310