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Oil change, yes or no?

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  • Goudy
    Goudy Posts: 2,176 Forumite
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    Not after only 15 miles it isn't.

    Fuel will burn the instant the engine fires into life.
    This produces soot which has a strong pigment to it and diesels produce masses more soot than a petrol.

    A diesel engine is a compression ignition engine unlike a petrol, thus runs much higher compression than a petrol engine, so suffers from more blowby, which contaminates the oil with soot.

    A cold diesel engine will suffer even more blowby until it warms up as the piston and rings have yet to fully expand with the heat and producing a better seal.

    Add to this the soot that's already left behind from the oil drain down and doesn't take much of a run to blacken the new oil in a diesel engine.
  • D_M_E
    D_M_E Posts: 3,008 Forumite
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    The X-Trail has another oil filter - I think it's underneath the engine somewhere at the back - and a lot of places don't bother changing it because it's awkward to get at.

    Could be this filter was not changed - my mate's got a 2.2d one and he says he's getting about 40 to the gallon since this other filter got changed.
  • OhhEnnEmm
    OhhEnnEmm Posts: 56 Forumite
    Gonna have to give em the benefit of the doubt I reckon
  • Jackmydad
    Jackmydad Posts: 9,186 Forumite
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    LandyAndy wrote: »
    Another vote for completely normal for a diesel engine.
    And another. You don't have to run mine for long after a change to get black oil. And that's after leaving to drain from hot for several minutes.
    It's diesels.
  • alfie1950
    alfie1950 Posts: 166 Forumite
    I have a 2.2 dci diesel Xtrail and can assure you that with a normal oil and filter change the oil will appear black even just running it for a few minutes.
    Now if this had been a petrol engine I would be suspicious as the oil can appear clean after several thousand miles but not with a diesel.
  • alan_d
    alan_d Posts: 364 Forumite
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    Like others, i'd say normal for a diesel.
    Both of my Volvo D5's discolour the oil within minutes of starting after an oil change.
  • Fortyfoot
    Fortyfoot Posts: 1,961 Forumite
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    Thanks for all the replies, I accept that the oil was changed.

    Fortyfoot
  • reeac
    reeac Posts: 1,430 Forumite
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    There's no telling how hot the oil was when the garage drained it. When I change the oil on my Kubota diesel tractor I do so immediately after I've been working it hard for an hour or more. The oil is then incredibly fluid and really pours out but I still leave it draining for half an hour or so. You have to be careful not to scald your fingers. I then find that the new oil looks pretty clean initially although that doesn't last long.
  • mattyprice4004
    mattyprice4004 Posts: 7,492 Forumite
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    Just a late vote for changed - my diesel’s oil looks like this at the first level check after 2 mins of idling.
  • ohreally
    ohreally Posts: 7,525 Forumite
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    Depending on several factors, is it a diesel, what has the change regime been previously, was the sump drained and old oil chased out with fresh or was the partial contents extracted by a pump?

    Not enough information to draw on.
    Don’t be a can’t, be a can.
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