VCS - Albert St B'ham 09/2016 - Claim Form Received

JanerRXC

I'm literally going through exactly the same. However I have photos of the signs of that car park and it does start the contract is with vehicle control services. I can post photos if you need them.

Have you sent that statement to them? And have they replied?

Coupon-mad

However I have photos of the signs of that car park and it does start the contract is with vehicle control services.

Yes we know, but there have been times when it said 'Excel' and the PDT machine tickets come out effectively saying the contract is with Excel.

The Parking Prankster blogs, and some cases where VCS have fielded duff evidence pics more than once, have shown EXCEL on the signs.

Yet VCS Witness Statement pretends to rely upon a 2010 contract with Excel, the leaseholder, giving VCS authority, which VCS pretend has lasted the whole time. We know it hasn't and Defendants should seek out and use other photos to prove it said EXCEL and put VCS on the spot.

Defences about this place can be found by searching the forum for the name Zozulya. JanerRXC I hope you found them in time, and haven't got dragged into defending a claim without having read such cases and the PP blogs first.

Coupon-mad

outoftown wrote: »

This is what I'm thinking if sending to VCS - it's loosely based on a letter that 'Ms C' as mentioned on parking prankster sent to BWL which resulted in a discontinuance.


[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]Head of Litigation – Vehicle Control Services Ltd.[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]Dear Sir / Madam,[/FONT]

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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]I am writing in relation to your County Court Claim (Claim No: XXXXXXXX) against me as the registered keeper of vehicle XXXX XXX. [/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]In advance of submitting my defence I would like to point out to you that at the time of the alleged parking incident to which your claim relates, your signage at Albert Street Car Park in Birmingham was in the name of Excel Parking Services (Excel) and not that of the claimant, Vehicle Control Services Ltd (VCS).[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]As such, any contract made by the driver of the vehicle would have been made with Excel and not VCS. Therefore, VCS are not party to any contract and have no legal standing to bring a claim.
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To that end, I look forward to receiving your notice of discontinuance to this claim within 7 days.
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If you fail to cancel proceedings I will seek to recover costs from you at the litigant in person rate of £ 19 per hour. Further details of this entitlement can be found under 27.14(2)g
h t t p s /www. justice. gov. uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part27#27.14
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I refer you (and will refer any subsequent court) to the following blog posts, which confirm you are well aware of this matter from other cases:[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]h t t p /parking-prankster.blogspot. co. uk/2017/02/vehicle-control-systems-lose-wrong . html
h t t p /parking-prankster.blogspot. co. uk/2017/02/vehicle-control-services-discontinue . html
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I will also make the court aware of the following discontinued / dismissed cases where VCS are erroneously named as the claimant.[/FONT]

[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]Claims Discontinued[/FONT][FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]VCS v Zozulya - A8QZ6666[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]VCS v Ms M - 3QZ53955 [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif] VCS v Ms O - C8DP9D8C[/FONT][FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]VCS v Mr H - C2DP0H7C[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]VCS v Mr W - C1DP3H5V[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]VCS v Ms C - C8DP37CH[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]Claims Dismissed[/FONT][FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]VCS v Ms A - C6DP7P37[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]I trust that this email will be sufficient to put an end to your baseless claim and that this situation can be laid to rest without wasting the valuable time of our Courts.[/FONT]
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]Yours faithfully,
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[FONT=verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]Mrs Registered Keeper[/FONT]

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Very good (add a quote from those blogs). Worth a try.

outoftown

JanerRXC wrote: »

I'm literally going through exactly the same. However I have photos of the signs of that car park and it does start the contract is with vehicle control services. I can post photos if you need them.

Have you sent that statement to them? And have they replied?

Hi JanerRSX,


I've been away since late last week and not yet finished the final draft that I will send to VCS.


I'm not expecting a response from them as I think they're probably more likely to try and 'flex their muscles' - I'll let you know how I get on though.

JanerRXC

I've sent them something similar, with no response. I doubt they will respond. I've sent them numerous emails and they've not replied to any. I have spoken to them on the phone and someone sent my SAR info. I don't know whether to call them again.

outoftown

[FONT=&quot]So this is the final draft for the notice of discontinuance, I'd be really grateful if anybody would cast a quick eye over it (amendments in red):[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Head of Litigation – Vehicle Control Services Ltd.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Dear Sir / Madam,

I am writing in relation to your County Court Claim (Claim No: XXXXXXXX) against me as the registered keeper of vehicle XXXX XXX. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]In advance of submitting a robust defence to the Court, I would like to point out to you that at the time of the alleged parking incident to which your claim relates, your signage at Albert Street Car Park in Birmingham was in the name of Excel Parking Services (Excel) and not that of the claimant, Vehicle Control Services Ltd (VCS).[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]As such, any contract made by the driver of the vehicle would have been made with Excel and not VCS. Therefore, VCS are not party to any contract and have no legal standing to bring a claim.

I refer you (and will refer any subsequent court) to the following blog posts (and a significant number of other online sources), which confirm you are well aware of this matter from other frivolous cases you have brought:[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]h t t p : // parking-prankster.blogspot .co .uk/2017/02/vehicle-control-systems-lose-wrong.html[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Date of Post 10/02/2017[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Vehicle Control Services lose – “Wrong claimant”[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Vehicle Control Services v Ms A C6DP7P37. Birmingham County Court. District Judge Williams

Ms A was in court with VCS regarding an alleged parking incident at Albert Street Car Park, Birmingham. Ms A was not the driver and all the signage at Albert Street suggested Excel were the operator, not VCS. Confused? So was Ms A, and the Judge as all the photo evidence in BW Legal's witness statement seemed to confirm that Excel were the operator.”[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]h t t p : // parking-prankster.blogspot .co .uk/2017/02/vehicle-control-services-discontinue.html[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Date of Post 24/02/2017[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Vehicle Control Services discontinue Albert Street claim [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Vehicle Control Systems (VCS) have a huge problem with historic parking charges issued at Albert Street, Birmingham, and the problem is that they had no right to issue the charges in the first place.

This is because the signage is all in the name of a different parking company, Excel Parking Services.”[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]And[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“VCS are of course fully aware of this, but this does not stop them from filing claims. They know that most motorists will take fright at the sight of a claim form, and pay up; so VCS play the numbers and file anyway.”[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The posts above are just two of a number of online entries that demonstrate that VCS are knowingly and actively engaged in a campaign of vexatious litigation for the sole purpose of frightening members of the public into parting with their cash.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I will also make the court aware of the following discontinued / dismissed cases where VCS are erroneously named as the claimant.[/FONT]
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Claims Discontinued
VCS v Zozulya - A8QZ6666
VCS v Ms M - 3QZ53955
VCS v Ms O - C8DP9D8C
VCS v Mr H - C2DP0H7C
VCS v Mr W - C1DP3H5V[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]VCS v Ms C - C8DP37CH

Claims Dismissed
VCS v Ms A - C6DP7P37

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[FONT=&quot]Therefore, I look forward to receiving your notice of discontinuance to this claim within 7 days.

If you fail to cancel proceedings I will seek to recover costs from your organisation at the litigant in person rate of £ 19 per hour. Further details of this entitlement can be found under 27.14(2)g
h t t p s /w w w .justice .gov .uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part27#27.14

I trust that this email will be sufficient to put an end to your baseless claim and that this situation can be laid to rest without wasting the valuable time of our Courts.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Yours faithfully,[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Mrs Registered Keeper[/FONT]

KeithP

It might be an idea to include a Costs Schedule running to four figures due to their unreasonable behaviour that you will file if a hearing takes place.

Use those bold words, they are mentioned in the CPRs.

There is at least one example, possibly more, in post #2 of the NEWBIES thread of a Costs Schedule of several hundred pounds, and I recall one poster achieving costs of £1500 from the Claimant due the the Claimant's unreasonableness.

Coupon-mad

Did you get a reply? If not, send them a 4 figure costs schedule.

skaart

Hi JanerRXC

Did you have a reply from this?

VCS is pressing on with my case, despite me sending them a letter almost identical to yours.