We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide
Debit card in Japan
Murmansk
Posts: 1,209 Forumite
I went to Japan recently and when I used my debit card in shops they just swiped it through a machine (presumably reading the magnetic stripe, not the chip) and gave it back to me.
No PIN or signature was needed.
Surely this is a bit worrying??!! Is it common in other places abroad too?
No PIN or signature was needed.
Surely this is a bit worrying??!! Is it common in other places abroad too?
0
Comments
-
Not sure but could it be their form of contactless?0
-
What sort of shops? What sort of Transaction amounts?0
-
Anything underhand is very rare in Japan, especially in shops. So there's no need to worry.
Different countries treat card payments in different ways, and for relatively small amounts a terminal may not ask for signature or PIN. And then, I've often been asked for both.Evolution, not revolution0 -
When I made purchases that required a signature in the US last year my signature was never checked against the card. I know this as the signature strip was entirely worn away so no check could be made.0
-
Well they were fairly small transactions I guess - under the equivalent of £300
-
Well they were fairly small transactions I guess - under the equivalent of £30
In that case, as 18cc says, probably 'contactless'. Although not guaranteed to be the same for non-UK transactions as for UK ones, doesn't a 'contactless' purchase appear on your statement with the 'contactless' logo next to it? You could check that and see what shows.0 -
This is known as "pin bypass". No need to worry - just keep the receipts and check the statement upon returning home.0
-
This is known as "pin bypass". No need to worry - just keep the receipts and check the statement upon returning home.
Not entirely certain it is. OP says the CHIP was not read. PIN Bypass can only be invoked in a CHIP-read transaction where the card's Cardholder Verification Method (CVM) lists PIN as the preferred CVM and the POS device supports PIN entry but this option was not done (for various reasons).
What should then happen is the POS Device should look to the next option on the CVM list contained within the CHIP, which, on a UK card, is most likely set to 'signature'. That didn't happen here, so it is unlikely to be the explanation.0 -
In US supermarkets pin bypass involves simply swiping your card.Terry_Towelling wrote: »Not entirely certain it is. OP says the CHIP was not read.0 -
In US supermarkets pin bypass involves simply swiping your card.
Technically, that is not PIN bypass, it is simply completing a transaction by reading the magnetic stripe and taking your signature - just like the good old days here in the civilised world. PIN Bypass involves reading the CHIP; much of the US is so far behind with CHIP and PIN that they don't actually have the CHIP readers in place.
Did the US supermarkets not even ask for a signature?
I left the world of card processing in 2005 with the US saying it might consider rolling out CHIP & PIN from 2010. Looks like they may have started but, 9 years later, and they still haven't completed it.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 354.1K Banking & Borrowing
- 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 455.3K Spending & Discounts
- 247.1K Work, Benefits & Business
- 603.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 178.3K Life & Family
- 261.2K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards