More than half of the party wall thickness built in adjoining land.

teneighty

Doozergirl wrote: »

Really?

The OP says that it does start at the centre point, but says it's 30mm off by the other end of the extension.

You think it's worth it? You genuinely think the surveyor isn't doing their job? You would expect it to be rebuilt or for the to pay for an *apparent* trespass of 30mm reducing to 0mm at the centre of the existing party wall?

How would you categorically confirm that trespass against the title plan and what value do you think that sliver of land holds?

I have a feeling you've misread the OP.

Fair point, I did mis-read that. My bad. So the issue is the wall isn't built square and runs out on to the neighbour's land?

That is difficult. It boils down to how big the extension is. If it is only 3 metres deep and only half of that has run out I'd probably let it go. If the extension is 6 metres deep and the wall starts to run out immediately then I'd kick up a fuss.

Sounds like the OP's neighbour is a right git so I would make sure I ratchet up his party wall surveyors bill by a couple of grand arguing about the trespass. At least that will teach him to be nicer to his neighbours in future.

carmijoon

Jackmydad wrote: »

Pretty well what I think. While at the start of the wall (at the house I assume) the centre may be easy to ascertain, (and I wouldn't reckon anything building wise as having to be within 30mm tolerance) then the further away it gets more difficult it becomes. As I said, the lines on maps and plans have a thickness which translates to quite a lot on the ground.

What should be right, and what is right are rarely the same thing, and while I won't be bullied by anyone myself, I can also see when any "win" could well be a Pyrrhic victory. So I'd let it go.

Loads of worry, loads of possible cost, and falling out with your attached neighbour over a tiny bit of ground.

I understand the OP thinking it's a cheek, but life really is too short for some things. This is one of them, at least IMHO.

At the end I agree with what you said, it is not worth it and I’ll let it go. The fact the neighbour was bulling me by start building without notice and then budding a wall that is not in middle made me very frustrated. So I asked people here for advice.
Thanks

Tom99

Presumably you agreed to the new side wall being a party wall because then when you want to build an extension you can use the new wall as one side of your extension?
I assume that would save you the cost of building your own wall with foundations.
So whilst its disappointing they could not build the wall along the correct line you do have some financial benefit in the future.

Jackmydad

Just as a complete aside, I wish people would stop using centimetres for anything technical or building related.
It confuses things. Not the numbers themselves, but having to check which is being used.
I automatically think in mm.

Jackmydad

And as another (sort of) aside, the angle of the wall at the house to give a 30 mm run out at 3000 mm
would be 89.42706130231652 degrees, according to this online calculator
http://www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-trigright.asp

Not a lot out from 90 degrees. . .

shortcrust

Could the neighbour perhaps make the wall 3cm thicker on their side?

Doozergirl

carmijoon wrote: »

We have a proof as the boundary line is my case is crystal clear. We have a concrete kerbs as a boundary and the new wall is not aligned in the middle. I already replied to your initial comment which was more making some personal comment again me without even knowing the whole story.
Telling people how often you find yourself conflict with people you you need a head wobble is not helping.

Anyways, I hope now you have a better undressing of the situation with the history I gave you on my previous message.

How thick is the concrete kerb? More than 30mm? Which *exact* bit of that concrete kerb is the boundary? The boundary has no dimensions at all.

The concrete kerb could be 30mm out. The kerb could even be out to your benefit.

We are talking about something built half a degree out of true. Anything could be inaccurate. It is not crystal clear at all. You would not be able to prove 30mm in court.

I apologise if my first post offended you. I do think you have managed to reflect on the situation though as a result of people not taking it very seriously. Don't sweat the small stuff.

EssexExile

Jackmydad wrote: »

And as another (sort of) aside, the angle of the wall at the house to give a 30 mm run out at 3000 mm
would be 89.42706130231652 degrees, according to this online calculator
http://www.carbidedepot.com/formulas-trigright.asp

Not a lot out from 90 degrees. . .

Or the wall is square to the house but the boundary isn't!

stragglebod

shortcrust wrote: »

Could the neighbour perhaps make the wall 3cm thicker on their side?

I just spat coffee onto my screen laughing at that, thank you

LadyDee

If you plan to sell your home in the future OP, do bear in mind that any disputes with neighbours have to be declared to the prospective buyer, and if I, as a buyer, thought you had a difficult neighbour I'd be walking away.