BW Legal LBC - Not Registered Keeper

Thrifter01

I received an LBC from BW Legal and am in the process of issuing an SAR to their client Premier Park and a holding letter to BW advising them of this. I was the registered keeper of the vehicle at the time (2014) but was not the driver, Premier Park were advised that I was not the driver at the time (albeit over the phone and not in writing) and I provided the details of the driver to them. When they contacted the driver and realised that the driver was not paying up they reverted to me stating that as the registered keeper I was liable. Should I advise in the SAR and holding letter to BW that I was not the driver at the time or is it already too late for this? Any help much appreciated

beamerguy

Thrifter01 wrote: »

I received an LBC from BW Legal and am in the process of issuing an SAR to their client Premier Park and a holding letter to BW advising them of this. I was the registered keeper of the vehicle at the time (2014) but was not the driver, Premier Park were advised that I was not the driver at the time (albeit over the phone and not in writing) and I provided the details of the driver to them. When they contacted the driver and realised that the driver was not paying up they reverted to me stating that as the registered keeper I was liable. Should I advise in the SAR and holding letter to BW that I was not the driver at the time or is it already too late for this? Any help much appreciated

OK, so did BWLEGAL add a fake £ 60 ?????

READ THIS as BWLegal have recently been kicked out of court for ABUSE OF PROCESS

The courts know more than BWLegal do

Thrifter01

beamerguy wrote: »

OK, so did BWLEGAL add a fake £ 60 ?????

READ THIS as BWLegal have recently been kicked out of court for ABUSE OF PROCESS

The courts know more than BWLegal do

Yes, there is an initial debt of £100 with an added "debt recovery fee" of £60. However, I can't access your READ THIS link?

beamerguy

Thrifter01 wrote: »

Yes, there is an initial debt of £100 with an added "debt recovery fee" of £60. However, I can't access your READ THIS link?

I forgot to add the link ....
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081
Debt recovery costs = NOT ALLOWED.

Look, BWLegal come up with loads of reasons to scam more money from you ..... the excuses are so feeble it's unreal

It is because of their scam attempts that recently two judges kicked them out for ABUSE OF PROCESS.

It is fair to say the judges know a lot better than BWLegal

It seems BWL has different desks in the same office.
One says Debt Recovery charges, then admin costs, contractual costs, legal costs ....bla bla

No getting away from it, any extra scam charge is Abuse of Process..

Thrifter01

Thanks beamerguy! The links still didn’t work but managed to search the forum and found the info anyway. Any idea if I should be telling them at this stage that I am not the registered keeper?

beamerguy

Thrifter01 wrote: »

Thanks beamerguy! The links still didn’t work but managed to search the forum and found the info anyway. Any idea if I should be telling them at this stage that I am not the registered keeper?

OK, this is it
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081

Hey, they are scamming you, if the court decides BWLegal are again attempting abuse of process and they kick it out, end of claim

No point in making it complicated

Coupon-mad

Thrifter01 wrote: »

Any idea if I should be telling them at this stage that I am not the registered keeper?

Why would you lie?

You were the keeper:

I was the registered keeper of the vehicle at the time (2014)

Did you mean should you tell them you were not the driver? You can if you like, and say that you are aware that in 2014 they failed to use POFA wording and cannot hold the keeper liable, so they have no cause of action.

Thrifter01

Sorry - yes I meant to ask whether I should tell them I wasn’t the driver. Given that a lot of my correspondence with Premier Park in 2014 was done on the phone as opposed to in writing (lesson learned for the future!) I don’t have any proof that I notified them of who the driver was, given that it is now way past 28 days do I have any get out or are they entitled to seek recovery against me as the keeper?

The_Deep

are they entitled to seek recovery against me as the keeper?

They can try, the final decision is for the judge.

Never ever deal with these parasites by telephone, had you have informed them in writing you might not now be going to court.

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams so complain to your MP.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

nosferatu1001

The 28 dys is NOT A TIME LIMIT ON YOU!

Thats the crap they tell people, and is a total lie

WRITE TO THEM NAMING THE DRIVER - proceedings have not started.

Thrifter01

So I wrote to BW Legal and requested an SAR but I have received a letter from the court anyway. I assume this means I now start to put together my defence?