Returning to ex-employer?

MrBrindle

Thanks for the replies all. Having spoken to my current employer they were happy for me to go part time to freelance for my ex employer.

So I offered two days a week at an average freelance rate. They declined, no surprise. They said two days a week wasn't enough and that they wouldn't agree to my freelance rate anyway. At least I've been reminded of why I left in the first place!

I know for a fact they've paid a premium for a variety of other professions (accounting / transport / stock control) in the business, but they don't value the role of designers. Frustrating.

They also told me what the wage would be for the role (full time) and it was STILL less than what they offered my replacement. Laughable.

A friend of mine who still works there seems to think this was some sort of test to see if I'm interested in returning full time, as they will potentially need to dismiss my replacement.

74jax

MrBrindle wrote: »

Thanks for the replies all. Having spoken to my current employer they were happy for me to go part time to freelance for my ex employer.

So I offered two days a week at an average freelance rate. They declined, no surprise. They said two days a week wasn't enough and that they wouldn't agree to my freelance rate anyway. At least I've been reminded of why I left in the first place!

I know for a fact they've paid a premium for a variety of other professions (accounting / transport / stock control) in the business, but they don't value the role of designers. Frustrating.

They also told me what the wage would be for the role (full time) and it was STILL less than what they offered my replacement. Laughable.

A friend of mine who still works there seems to think this was some sort of test to see if I'm interested in returning full time, as they will potentially need to dismiss my replacement.

Thank you for the update!


I'm thinking, give it a while............ they may be back in touch.....

getmore4less

Check contractor day rate and do it that way for the month.

if you can free up more days offer to do as and when or on a per project basis.

Premium rates and they have reduced overheads/risk but get their jobs done.
Win win

Taking it to a B2B relationship rather than employ is the way forward.

MrBrindle

getmore4less wrote: »

Check contractor day rate and do it that way for the month.

if you can free up more days offer to do as and when or on a per project basis.

Premium rates and they have reduced overheads/risk but get their jobs done.
Win win

Taking it to a B2B relationship rather than employ is the way forward.

I did offer them a day rate, but they weren't interested.

getmore4less

Leave them to it or maybe cut the rate but be very tight on what you give in terms of hours.

Marcon

getmore4less wrote: »

Leave them to it or maybe cut the rate but be very tight on what you give in terms of hours.

Why bother? Just forget it and go on working for your brother.

Paul_DNAP

MrBrindle wrote: »

I did offer them a day rate, but they weren't interested.

Yep, leave it at that, if they want your expertise and all round brilliance then they ought to pay you a fair price for it.

shortcrust

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Having to pay more to get somebody new into a business is very common. Many employers don't seem to actually realise the market rate for a job until they have to recruit somebody new.
Despite the issues you have had with them, they clearly think you are able to do the job for them. Have they mentioned how much they will pay? If you would like to get back into the company, and your brother is willing to let you go for a month, what do you have to lose - assuming they will pay you what you want?

Spot on. Also consider that an extra 4K for someone new - and presumably bright eyed and brimming with enthusiasm - might seem much more palatable than an extra 2K to keep someone who is in their own words disgruntled and frustrated.

MrBrindle

shortcrust wrote: »

Spot on. Also consider that an extra 4K for someone new - and presumably bright eyed and brimming with enthusiasm - might seem much more palatable than an extra 2K to keep someone who is in their own words disgruntled and frustrated.

Yes, that's fair enough. However I wasn't disgruntled and frustrated until the whole issue with the payrise / lack of promotion began.

snilloct1957

shortcrust wrote: »

Spot on. Also consider that an extra 4K for someone new - and presumably bright eyed and brimming with enthusiasm - might seem much more palatable than an extra 2K to keep someone who is in their own words disgruntled and frustrated.

OP only became disgruntled after the company passed him over for promotion, for which he seemed particularly suited. They wanted him in a position to benefit the company, but no reward for his hard work and loyalty. I would hold out for more money, the company will come to its senses eventually.