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PIP MR request - Activity 9 - Clarification over case law

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  • calcotti
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    Preparing a Statement of Reasons involves quite a lot of work for the tribunal judge and should only be requested if you are considering an appeal to the upper tribunal.

    The DWP have a right of appeal so the tribunal decision will not be implemented by the DWP immediately. If you have not heard anything after about 6 weeks chase DWP.
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  • Alice_Holt
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    edited 11 January 2020 at 1:37PM
    Demerara wrote: »
    ... Again, the panel members were incredibly kind and gentle which I am grateful for.

    Quick question though - I got the decision notice on the day - do I need to ask for a record of the proceedings or statement of reasons or are those steps for those whose appeal have not been granted?

    No need to request a S of R as this is more a part of asking the Upper Tribunal to review a First Tier Tribunal's decision.

    Very pleased you were successful at tribunal.

    Generally, most people find a tribunal panel to be knowledgeable, fair and considerate (but, of course, they are thorough in their questions).
    I think it's a pity neither ATOS (IAS), Capita assessors nor DWP DM's are capable of operating to the same standard, and getting the decision right in the first place.

    Edit: And as calcotti says a S of R will give the tribunal judge more work.
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  • calcotti
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    Alice_Holt wrote: »
    I think it's a pity neither ATOS (IAS), Capita assessors nor DWP DM's are capable of operating to the same standard, and getting the decision right in the first place.
    Absolutely. Huge amount of distress caused to claimants and significant cost to tax payer funding the tribunals. Not to mention those claimants who, quite understandably, give up and therefore do not get the financial support to which they may be entitled.
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  • Demerara
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    Thank you Alice Holt :)

    I agree with you both calcotti and Alice Holt, the panel did "challenge" me in that they went into quite some depth about the difficulties I face whereas when I had the face to face assessment, I left wondering why it was needed because the questions were not in any way more detailed from what was in the PIP2 form.

    I have to admit even the morning of the hearing, I considered not attending and telling them I was withdrawing. Not sure that would be possible at that stage but this demonstrates how stressful the whole thing is. Obviously, I am glad I did go.
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