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Unicorn51

These are the t&c's for parking at Chiltern railway stations.


https://www.apcoa.co.uk/parking-products/season-tickets/chiltern-railways-terms-and-conditions/


The last one is interesting:
Vehicles found to be causing an obstruction may be moved within or removed from the car park and the driver/owner may be liable for any removal/storage and other costs incurred.


Surely the only way they could move or remove a vehicle, is under Railway Byelaws.

pullingteeth987

Thanks Nosferatu
Do You think this will suffice i n the game of ping pong I have now entered??
I really appreciate your help with this matter

Dear Sirs
Thank you for your reply .
I ask you to explain precisely what you mean ?
"no cause of action" against the driver.
As you have confirmed you are following a civil breach of contract, without a cause of action against the driver you have no cause of action against anyone.
I'm also very aware that there is no keeper liability anyway - if you disagree, I require you to state your full chain of cause pof action against a vehicle keeper.

Therefore cancel this ticket, as you have confirmed there is no cause of action against the driver, and there can be no cause of action against the keeper in any case.

Is there anything else I should add??

Le_Kirk

pullingteeth987 wrote: »

As you have confirmed you are following a civil breach of contract, without a cause of action against the driver you have no cause of action against anyone.
I'm also very aware that there is no keeper liability anyway - if you disagree, I require you to state your full chain of cause pof action against a vehicle keeper.

Maybe just correct this typo: -

As you have confirmed you are following a civil breach of contract, without a cause of action against the driver you have no cause of action against anyone.
I'm also very aware that there is no keeper liability anyway - if you disagree, I require you to state your full chain of cause [strike]p[/strike]of action against a vehicle keeper.

The_Deep

Why not complain to the SRA as well, it will cost QDR money to field it.

http://www.sra.org.uk/home/home.page

As nine times out of ten these tickets are scams why not get your MP involved. MP.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

pullingteeth987

Hello Quick update
So I emailed the letter that was suggested by you wonderful helpful people (thanks)
This is the response received.

Car Park Operator: APCOA PARKING (UK) LTD

Instructed by: ZZPS Limited

Balance:



Thank you for your email, the contents have been noted.



In answer to your question, we advise that the registered keeper of the vehicle will remain liable for the outstanding Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) and not the driver.



Our client has confirmed they have followed the correct process and have issued the above PCNs correctly.



We appreciate that you continue to dispute these PCNs.



We act solely on our clients’ instructions in this matter. Your comments however have been noted and should our clients instruct further action, you will be notified in due course.



Yours sincerely

QDR SIG (2)

They have not answered the the request from me at all
Please advise what I should do next
Many thanks again

BrownTrout

There is nothing else to do next, just ignore anything else these muppets send you

Redx

the time to act is if either of the following 2 things happen within 6 years


1) you receive a formal LoC in the post giving 30 days notice and including financial forms , either from APCO or from their actual solicitors acting for them


2) an N1 court claim form and pack arrives from the CCBC in Northampton (the government clearing office for small claims)


anything else is irrelevant


ps:- I will be very surprised if the TOC decided it was a penalty notice and issued a summons to a Magistrates Court (extremely unlikely)

pullingteeth987

Thanks Redx

Does the TOC have to issue a summons within 6 months to a magistrates court?

Redx

pullingteeth987 wrote: »

Thanks Redx

Does the TOC have to issue a summons within 6 months to a magistrates court?

they should do if bylaws apply and if they are enforcing said bylaws but only a couple actually do

Coupon-mad

It's only APCOA. Ignore them, in the absence of a court claim (you'd be the first).