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Washing Machine in downstairs WC - not possible?

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Hi folks,

We are doing some internal renovations which include building a small downstairs WC.

We were hoping to include a washing machine in the space but the builder has just said:

"I have just spoken to the electrician concerning the washing machine as the regs are always being updated. I don’t think we can accommodate it in the cloakroom as appliances now have to be at least 3m away from a sink or shower."

In that case, would washing machines not have to be 3m away from kitchen sinks? It doesn't seem to make sense but I wondered if anyone here had some tips or guidance for us.

Thanks in advance :beer:

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  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Hi folks,

    We are doing some internal renovations which include building a small downstairs WC.

    We were hoping to include a washing machine in the space but the builder has just said:

    "I have just spoken to the electrician concerning the washing machine as the regs are always being updated. I don’t think we can accommodate it in the cloakroom as appliances now have to be at least 3m away from a sink or shower."

    In that case, would washing machines not have to be 3m away from kitchen sinks? It doesn't seem to make sense but I wondered if anyone here had some tips or guidance for us.

    Thanks in advance :beer:
    That's because the regulations apply to bathrooms not kitchens. A socket in a bathroom must be at least 3 mtrs away from the edge of the bath/sink/shower tray.
  • novicerenovator
    novicerenovator Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 27 June 2019 at 12:14PM
    Thanks Neil.

    So in that case, it would be ok in a downstairs toilet?

    Many thanks,
  • As neilmcl says, the regs are for bathrooms, or more precisely:

    Section 701: Locations containing a bath or shower.

    Although I thought that it was less than 3m? Zone one is 1.2m, zone two is 0.6m after that? Outside zone two, no special requirements apply?
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    edited 29 December 2022 at 6:45PM
    As neilmcl says, the regs are for bathrooms, or more precisely:

    Section 701: Locations containing a bath or shower.

    Although I thought that it was less than 3m? Zone one is 1.2m, zone two is 0.6m after that? Outside zone two, no special requirements apply?
    I think it's 3m from the boundary of zone 1, ie, the edge of the bath/shower tray.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Thanks Neil.

    So in that case, it would be ok in a downstairs toilet?

    Many thanks,
    Possibly, not sure.
  • EssexExile
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    Don't regulations allow it as long as it's hard wired & the switch is outside?
    Tall, dark & handsome. Well two out of three ain't bad.
  • That would seem sensible! I've asked to speak to someone in our local building regs department to try and find out.
  • aliby21
    aliby21 Posts: 327 Forumite
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    I did something like this by getting the builder to make a cupboard in the bathroom to put the washing machine in, so in effect it was in a separate (washing machine sized) room. This was so I could have a shower though, I thought when I was only going to have loo and basin I could have got away with hard wiring the washing machine in with a switch outside the room.
  • Ectophile
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    If it was 3m from any sink, then my kitchen would have no sockets in it at all!


    The rule applies to baths, showers, hot tubs, swimming pools and the like, where people are soaking in water.


    There is no hard rule for sinks, but a minimum of 30cm is considered good practice.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
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