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Tell me this is not the best country in the world

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  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    Rich2808 wrote: »
    I can forgive the OP a bit of greed but as the last line of the article makes clear your likelihood of being able to buy a home or own one in future is increasingly likely to be related not to your own efforts but what you inherit. If your parents and close relatives are poor and live in a council house no matter how hard you strive you are less likely to own one home or more than a lazy person who simply inherits property or assets.

    Whether that provides for a healthy society or a productive economy moving forward is less clear.

    "Britain risks becoming a country where getting ahead in life depends as much on what you inherit, as what you earn"


    It depends where you live. In some areas of the country buying your own home is not as unaffordable as others.



    If you want to try to live in an area where you don't earn enough to buy a property you are going to have a problem. Not forgetting that some young people don't want to buy property. Now where are the people who want to rent from choice going to live? Not all of them want flats.
  • triathlon
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    Rich2808 wrote: »
    I can forgive the OP a bit of greed but as the last line of the article makes clear your likelihood of being able to buy a home or own one in future is increasingly likely to be related not to your own efforts but what you inherit. If your parents and close relatives are poor and live in a council house no matter how hard you strive you are less likely to own one home or more than a lazy person who simply inherits property or assets.

    Whether that provides for a healthy society or a productive economy moving forward is less clear.

    "Britain risks becoming a country where getting ahead in life depends as much on what you inherit, as what you earn"

    And how can I or anyone eles with a few quid help that?
    It's not my fault I am able to help my kids, what do you I suggest, should I just give my wealth away to the state on dying.
  • shortcrust
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    triathlon wrote: »
    And how can I or anyone eles with a few quid help that?
    It's not my fault I am able to help my kids, what do you I suggest, should I just give my wealth away to the state on dying.

    It’s not your fault, but it’s - at best - crass to herald something that might be an indicator of increasing inequality as a thing that makes Britain brilliant.
  • Cakeguts
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    There is always going to be inequality. Someone with two incomes in highly paid jobs and no children is always going to be better off than someone who earns the same but has been married and divorced 3 times with children from each marriage.



    The question is should the childless couple fund the lifestyle of the person who has children from 3 different marriages?
  • chucknorris
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    There is always going to be inequality. Someone with two incomes in highly paid jobs and no children is always going to be better off than someone who earns the same but has been married and divorced 3 times with children from each marriage.



    The question is should the childless couple fund the lifestyle of the person who has children from 3 different marriages?

    That is a damn good question! I would like to hear the various answers to that on Question Time.
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  • shortcrust
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    Of course there will always be inequality, and I don’t begrudge anyone their wealth and success. But as I’ve said, suggesting increasing levels of second home ownership demonstrate how great things are is just ludicrous.

    Anyway, I’ll confess I’ve made a mistake in not checking out this unfamiliar part of the forum before posting. I see now that such threads are all part of the ‘fun’.
  • triathlon
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    shortcrust wrote: »
    It’s not your fault, but it’s - at best - crass to herald something that might be an indicator of increasing inequality as a thing that makes Britain brilliant.

    Oh who cares about other people in reality?

    Do you honestly think politicians or businessmen give a hoot about what the critical media say and their chip on their shoulder readership, of course not. Myself and my family live daily happy lives and do not care what those outside our circle think, you should try it. I say this is the best country in the world because the apparatus is there to thrive if you want, we have done so:)

    Those can and will never achieve will sit behind screens screaming their frustrations at the world and how it is so unfair
  • Takedap
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    triathlon wrote: »
    Oh who cares about other people in reality?


    I do, although I'll admit that it's partly for selfish reasons.


    For example, I'd rather live relatively well while surrounded by people who are enjoying a similar standard of living than be a multi-millionaire that has to live in a gated community that has guards keeping the poor at bay.
  • triathlon
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    Takedap wrote: »
    I do, although I'll admit that it's partly for selfish reasons.


    For example, I'd rather live relatively well while surrounded by people who are enjoying a similar standard of living than be a multi-millionaire that has to live in a gated community that has guards keeping the poor at bay.


    Well I wouldn't, and most people if they were honest would agree with me. And what in reality have you ever done to actually help your fellow man?, not much I bet accept voting Corbyn.
  • Hectors_House
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    edited 16 June 2019 at 8:00PM
    Rich2808 wrote: »
    I can forgive the OP a bit of greed but as the last line of the article makes clear your likelihood of being able to buy a home or own one in future is increasingly likely to be related not to your own efforts but what you inherit. If your parents and close relatives are poor and live in a council house no matter how hard you strive you are less likely to own one home or more than a lazy person who simply inherits property or assets.

    Whether that provides for a healthy society or a productive economy moving forward is less clear.

    "Britain risks becoming a country where getting ahead in life depends as much on what you inherit, as what you earn"


    Funnily enough I was talking to my sister the other day about how skewed things are now for the young.

    We own our house outright having worked full time all our lives.

    Children never came along for either of us.

    We are now in the envious position of having property, private pensions and various assets with no one to leave it to so may as well cash in some of it and enjoy our old age.

    All of which is really very sad. I don’t know of any young people either of us know who will be in this same position when they reach our age.

    And that is wrong.

    We got to our position through never having the cost of raising children so being unencumbered to be able to work full time and put money into the works pension.

    This shouldn’t be how it is.
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