Charity Lease house

Lastinline

Just wondered if anyone could help please.
The house next door is on lease from the buy to let owner to a charity.The charity is supposed to house people in real need.
A woman and three children are supposed to be living there but are very often not there except when the weather is good.
During hot spells the woman entertains very loudly and bbq smokily in the garden And minibus loads ( really!) of people turn up. The charity is church based and she seems to host church dos in the garden.
She is also constantly moving jumble type stuff in and out of the house. The charity has several charity shops one of which recently closed.
It does also appear that various different people spend nights there when the house is empty.
We have actually experienced untold misery since this latest “tenant” arrived mainly due to the vast trampoline, 12’ basketball and bbq..all squashed up against our fence.
The landlord who is a developer has wanted to buy our house for a song for the last 10 years.
My query is..what financial advantage..tax..council tax etc would it be to a buy to letter to lease to a charity and why would the charity have what appears to be a bogus tenant?
Many thanks for reading this. There have been many other distressing events over the years too numerous to mention.

davidmcn

Lastinline wrote: »

what financial advantage..tax..council tax etc would it be to a buy to letter to lease to a charity

None I can think of. The charity is likely to be more substantial and able to pay the rent than the average individual tenant, but it'll (probably) be a commercial lease without the statutory protection of an AST etc. As far as the landlord's tax is concerned, rent is rent, no matter who pays it. And the landlord's not liable for council tax if there's any sort of tenant in place.

cattie

The owner would probably have a guaranteed rent from the charity as many social landlords offer this too, leasing for a fixed term of say 3 or 5 oreven 10yrs. The owner gets paid whether the property is tenanted or not.

It sounds as if the tenant of the house you're talking about possibly works for the charity, so not a bogus tenant if the charity has rented to her.

I sympathise with you regarding trampoline etc. as I'd hate to live anywhere next to noisy & excited kids bouncing about on a trampoline or bouncing balls off of a party wall or fence. But unless the noise & smell of bbq is constant & at unsocialable hours I don't think there's much you can do.

If you're really unhappy there, why not sell your house at market value via an estate agent. One of the big benefits of owning over renting is that you can sell up & move if anything starts to spoil the enjoyment of your current home/area.

Comms69

Lastinline wrote: »

Just wondered if anyone could help please.
The house next door is on lease from the buy to let owner to a charity.The charity is supposed to house people in real need.
A woman and three children are supposed to be living there but are very often not there except when the weather is good.
During hot spells the woman entertains very loudly and bbq smokily in the garden And minibus loads ( really!) of people turn up. The charity is church based and she seems to host church dos in the garden.
She is also constantly moving jumble type stuff in and out of the house. The charity has several charity shops one of which recently closed.
It does also appear that various different people spend nights there when the house is empty.
We have actually experienced untold misery since this latest “tenant” arrived mainly due to the vast trampoline, 12’ basketball and bbq..all squashed up against our fence.
The landlord who is a developer has wanted to buy our house for a song for the last 10 years.
My query is..what financial advantage..tax..council tax etc would it be to a buy to letter to lease to a charity and why would the charity have what appears to be a bogus tenant?
Many thanks for reading this. There have been many other distressing events over the years too numerous to mention.

Absolutely none whatsoever. As for the status of the tenant, why would she be bogus?


You have no idea what her contract says.

eddddy

Lastinline wrote: »

My query is..what financial advantage..tax..council tax etc would it be to a buy to letter to lease to a charity and why would the charity have what appears to be a bogus tenant?

It may simply be a 'hands-off' landlord who doesn't want the hassle of dealing with ASTs, private tenants, potential voids, tenant finding etc.

The landlord may have agreed a long commercial lease with the charity who pay a guaranteed rent each month, and the charity are free to use it as they wish (subject to whatever terms are in the lease).


I know a landlord who does this - and the charity use his flat to house 'difficult' people. As an example, the police recently opened the door of the flat with their "big red key", causing a lot of damage.

The LL isn't too happy, and the charity won't evict the occupant, but the charity is responsible for making sure the door is repaired.

Lastinline

Many thanks for all replies.
Ideas re bogus tenant were based on reports in local paper....claims that charity collects ( demands) tenants’ benefits. A single woman with three kids maybe living elsewhere could claim plenty from a rented property?
Have tried to sell several times but of course difficult when next to run down, tatty property.
We have had many, police, fire brigade 3am visits to next door. Knocking us up to ask where current tenant is .
Thanks again.

Comms69

Lastinline wrote: »

Many thanks for all replies.
Ideas re bogus tenant were based on reports in local paper....claims that charity collects ( demands) tenants’ benefits. - Doubt that's true A single woman with three kids maybe living elsewhere could claim plenty from a rented property? - Not if she's living elsewhere as well. I mean at best she's looking at 2k a month
Have tried to sell several times but of course difficult when next to run down, tatty property.
We have had many, police, fire brigade 3am visits to next door. Knocking us up to ask where current tenant is . - Well tell them to go forth and reproduce? You aren't their keeper
Thanks again.

If you think there's benefit fraud report it. But a single woman with 3 kids doesn't necessarily mean there's benefit fraud.

Lastinline

It isn’t all that easy to be forthright and matter of fact when faced with these things.
But anyway thanks for your reply.
I would not wish this situation on anyone.

Comms69

Lastinline wrote: »

It isn’t all that easy to be forthright and matter of fact when faced with these things.
But anyway thanks for your reply.
I would not wish this situation on anyone.

Fair enough; I've dealt with all sorts

xylophone

The landlord who is a developer has wanted to buy our house for a song for the last 10 years.

Are you implying that he has chosen a difficult tenant in order to encourage you to accept his offer?

spadoosh

Did the police really knock on your door at 3 am asking where your neighbour was?