London Travelcard rules

KevinG

KeithP wrote: »

I think you are mistaken.

But if you cannot, or will not, tell us your departure station then I'm sorry but I cannot help further.

Have a pleasant journey.

Why does everybody keep telling me I've got it wrong? I am simply quoting the fares given to me by southernrailway.com. Here's the Bognor Regis fare:



OK, the station is Crawley but I reckon you'd get the same results from any other station in West Sussex.


By the way, I am grateful for everyone's help and I'm sorry if I'm coming across as uncooperative, that really is not my intention.

silvercar

Looking at splitticketing.com

For the adult:
Crawley to East Croydon, Advance Single (SAV) £5.00
(Only valid on booked Southern services).
East Croydon to London St Pancras Anytime Day Single (SDS) £6.60
Not valid for travel on London Underground services.
London St Pancras to East Croydon Anytime Day Single (SDS) £6.60
Not valid for travel on London Underground services.
East Croydon to Crawley Advance Single (SAV) £5.00
Only valid on booked Southern services.
Fare: £23.20

Railcard fare for same journey is £15.30

KevinG

No offence intended silvercar, but how is any of that relevant?

bubieyehyeh

From slightly south of crawley I've found buying a train ticket to east croydon, and then using oyster/contactless to st pancras can be cheaper. Its a bit of pain since you have to leave though barrier with ticket and then re-enter the barrier with oyster/contactless.

stragglebod

KevinG wrote: »

Why does everybody keep telling me I've got it wrong? I am simply quoting the fares given to me by southernrailway.com. Here's the Bognor Regis fare:



OK, the station is Crawley but I reckon you'd get the same results from any other station in West Sussex.


By the way, I am grateful for everyone's help and I'm sorry if I'm coming across as uncooperative, that really is not my intention.

That's a day return travelcard. You said you'd be returning a week later.

Cornucopia

Crawley -> London St Pancras

According to Journey Planner, the cheapest Single ticket is a Travelcard at £17.20.

A return ticket that is valid for a week is a standard Off-Peak Return (not valid on the London Underground) is £36.40. For some reason, it does not specify 2x Travelcard there or under the "2 Singles" option.

It's not a £60 disparity, but it does seem odd.

If you put in St Pancras -> Crawley, it does not offer a Travelcard, but a £24.40 Off-peak Single, suggesting that a Travelcard is not a valid option when travel does not start from the "home" station.

KevinG

stragglebod wrote: »

That's a day return travelcard. You said you'd be returning a week later.

Yes, I hadn't appreciated that you had quoted the period return fare.

KevinG

Cornucopia wrote: »

Crawley -> London St Pancras

According to Journey Planner, the cheapest Single ticket is a Travelcard at £17.20.

A return ticket that is valid for a week is a standard Off-Peak Return (not valid on the London Underground) is £36.40. For some reason, it does not specify 2x Travelcard there or under the "2 Singles" option.

It's not a £60 disparity, but it does seem odd.

If you put in St Pancras -> Crawley, it does not offer a Travelcard, but a £24.40 Off-peak Single, suggesting that a Travelcard is not a valid option when travel does not start from the "home" station.

For a single adult, you are right, the return is only roughly double the travelcard fare, but when I try to book for the whole family I still get the large disparity between a return at £90.35 and two travelcards at £65.10. This is largely because I completely lose the child £2 flat fare.

stragglebod

KevinG wrote: »

Yes, I hadn't appreciated that you had quoted the period return fare.

I hadn't quoted anything. I don't think you have as good a grasp of detail as you think you do. So I think it's highly likely you've made mistakes in your calculations.


But since you won't tell anyone what journey you want to make there's no way for us to check and help you.

Cornucopia

KevinG wrote: »

For a single adult, you are right, the return is only roughly double the travelcard fare, but when I try to book for the whole family I still get the large disparity between a return at £90.35 and two travelcards at £65.10. This is largely because I completely lose the child £2 flat fare.

Yes, I see £90.35 from your details, too.

I think what you have there are multiple discounts ceasing to apply when "booking" from the London end.

I would suggest having a look at Crawley -> London Victoria. That seems to give access back to cheaper fares and some of the discounts.

I am seeing a cheapest (2 x Single x 4 passenger) total fare of £18.10 inward and £12.30 back on an Advance ticket (selected trains). Unfortunately the very cheapest fares seem to be London Victoria only (not London Terminals).

Single Fare - Outward journey

£8.50 - 1 x Adult - Advance (Standard Class)
£4.00 - 2 x Child - Advance (Standard Class)
£5.60 - 1 x Senior - Advance (Standard Class)

Single Fare - Return journey

£5.00 - 1 x Adult - Advance (Standard Class)
£4.00 - 2 x Child - Advance (Standard Class)
£3.30 - 1 x Senior - Advance (Standard Class)