How would you play this?

Exodi

TBagpuss wrote: »

itwould still mean more admin for the schol and while it might not leave them below required staffing levels would presumably leave them understaffed,so it's legitimate for the head to say no.

Even if it wouldn't leave them understaffed, it's for the management (headteacher) to decide the companies (schools) holiday/leave policies. I work for a manufacturer that has previously had quite a loose policy on holiday/leave. There were issues with people taking unpaid leave at the drop of a hat meaning it was extremely difficult to do labour planning. We have since tightened up on people deciding overnight that they don't want to work on a particular day but we still have requests. The issue we face (and no doubt the headteacher has considered the same thing) is if we allow one member of staff to take non-holiday time off, we have to allow everyone.

What if the headteacher did allow it? Would the other teachers not want to do the same thing? The headteacher would have to tell them no, how's that fair? You get the idea.

But really, the headteacher shouldn't have to provide their rationale behind their decision and it's certainly not your partners position to question it.

EDIT: Doh you beat me to it!

w06 wrote: »

Look at it from the head's point of view. Many of their staff will have school age children, all of whom will have events that their parents may like to attend during school time. Where do the school draw the line between something that warrants time off and something that doesn't?

Potbellypig

w06 wrote: »

Look at it from the head's point of view. Many of their staff will have school age children, all of whom will have events that their parents may like to attend during school time. Where do the school draw the line between something that warrants time off and something that doesn't?

Yea I mean I agree with this to be fair. Hence why I put tough one in my OP because I kind of agree with him, but also see my partners side, and of course want her to be there. He did say what about all the other parents that have children leaving, do I let everyone go? Which is kind of fair enough. As for your point regarding where to draw the line, it is difficult. According to the missus, there have been plenty of times where employees have come in late/left early for reasons to do with children. So of course it's not like he can't say yes, he just doesn't see a childs last walk out of primary school with all the teachers and children all clapping them off as something worthy. Of course, my partner wholly disagrees.

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Potbellypig wrote: »

Y he just doesn't see a childs last walk out of primary school with all the teachers and children all clapping them off as something worthy.

At least he's demonstrating good judgement.

Comms69

Potbellypig wrote: »

Yea I mean I agree with this to be fair. Hence why I put tough one in my OP because I kind of agree with him, but also see my partners side, and of course want her to be there. He did say what about all the other parents that have children leaving, do I let everyone go? Which is kind of fair enough. As for your point regarding where to draw the line, it is difficult. According to the missus, there have been plenty of times where employees have come in late/left early for reasons to do with children. So of course it's not like he can't say yes, he just doesn't see a childs last walk out of primary school with all the teachers and children all clapping them off as something worthy. Of course, my partner wholly disagrees.

In and employer / employee relationship one view has authority, the other doesn't. You know which is which, so it's very much a moral argument. I do understand what she's saying. What would be the response at your work if you asked for this?

Dymphna60

It’s a pity your child’s school has decided to make such a big thing of it , although I know it is something that schools have started.
The majority of working parents aren’t going to be able to attend. Also if some children are already feeling a bit nervous and scared of starting senior school I can’t think this kind of thing helps .
I do hope all this angst is being hidden from 10 year old .

System

It's probably a safety thing. Teachers and support staff can be disciplined for not being in the room they should be, let alone off the premises.



I can see both sides, a bit mean of the school or is it worth losing your job over? Probably not. Get grandma/grandad to pick them up and take photos. I can't even remember the last day of any school other than secondary, so it's not too much of a big deal in my mind.

Manxman_in_exile

Potbellypig wrote: »

Yea I mean I agree with this to be fair. Hence why I put tough one in my OP because I kind of agree with him, but also see my partners side, and of course want her to be there. He did say what about all the other parents that have children leaving, do I let everyone go? Which is kind of fair enough. As for your point regarding where to draw the line, it is difficult. According to the missus, there have been plenty of times where employees have come in late/left early for reasons to do with children. So of course it's not like he can't say yes, he just doesn't see a childs last walk out of primary school with all the teachers and children all clapping them off as something worthy. Of course, my partner wholly disagrees.

My God - does this really happen.?

Dymphna60

Oh Manxman life hasn’t happened if it hasn’t been recorded by an over the top event .
Pregnancy reveal parties
Big gender reveal events when you know the sex of baby from scan
Holding a baby shower in a hotel or other venue
Cakes costing hundreds for children’s birthdays
Graduation from nursery
Infant school
Perfect weddings
Mimi moons
Baby moons
And on and on it goes
The odd thing is people don’t seem to be any happier now than they used to be .

General_Grant

Dymphna60 wrote: »

Oh Manxman life hasn’t happened if it hasn’t been recorded by an over the top event .
Pregnancy reveal parties
Big gender reveal events when you know the sex of baby from scan
Holding a baby shower in a hotel or other venue
Cakes costing hundreds for children’s birthdays
Graduation from nursery
Infant school
Perfect weddings
Mimi moons
Baby moons
And on and on it goes
The odd thing is people don’t seem to be any happier now than they used to be .

Wow. I had to google that (mini moon I think) - and by extension baby moon.

System

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

My God - does this really happen.?

Probably, they have Proms for leaving primary school now...