Annual Leave Calculations

Hi, hoping someone can offer advice on Annual Leave calculated in hours.
My employer has 2 different rota patterns, with two different contracted hours.
One contract is for 40 hours per week, 8 hour days (Mon to Fri) , annual leave is 28 days incl Bank Holidays, (the minimum legal amount of 5.6)
Second contract is a bit more confusing in a few areas!
It is a rolling shift rota of 4 On, 4 Off, 12 hour shifts for 3 days and 12.5 hours for 1 day.
First our contract states we are employed/paid for 42.5 hours per week
We also get the 28 days incl Bank Holidays, and we are querying if this has been correctly calculated?
From information I have been able to find the legal amount of 5.6 annual leave for employee is done through a calculation of an 8 hour day on a 40 hour contract?
So for example: Someone on the 8 hour a day contract for 4 working days off use 32 hours leave.
Someone on the 12 hour day contract would use 48.5 hours (1 x 12.5 hours, 3 x 12 hours)

Any help makes any sense of this would be greatly appreciated, as whenever try to talk / explain with managers this gets, brushed away and not addressed.
Thanks

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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    4 on 4 off works out as a 16 week cycle 14*4-4 shifts.

    56d on 56d off over 112days.

    3.5 days per week average

    14 12.5 shift days adds 7 hours to the 16 weeks

    average on 12hrs would be 42hr with the extra 1/2 hour it is 42.44hr average
    First our contract states we are employed/paid for 42.5 hours per week
    looks like they rounded up.

    From information I have been able to find the legal amount of 5.6 annual leave for employee is done through a calculation of an 8 hour day on a 40 hour contract?

    That is not correct wjich won't help if this is what you try to talk about.

    Putting the odd 1/2 hour to one side for a bit.

    Look at statutory holiday entitlement

    4 on 4 off is 3.5 days a week on average.

    5 day workers get 28 days

    3.5 day workers should get 28*(3.5/5)=19.6 days


    there are a few ways that can be adjusted for the extra 1/2 hour

    A common way would be to do it in hours and then just deduct the hours for the day taken off.

    This can mean that if you take a lot of the 12.5hr days off you are short on the 5.6 weeks rules but is that likely to happen in practice.

    It could easily be adjusted by tweaking the hours worked.


    How are they working out you pay when you take holiday.

    if it is the same as when you work and they give the 4on4off 28days I would keep quiet as you will not be popular when they realise it should be 19.6.


    If they are adjusting pay how are they doing it?
  • theoretica
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    If people on the second shift pattern are getting 28 of their longer days as holiday it is more generous than the 28 shorter days the first shift pattern gets as holiday. However, it is perfectly legal to pay different workers different amounts, or give them more holiday so long as no one gets below the minimum. Perhaps this is compensation for working some weekends?
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  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    edited 28 May 2019 at 1:16AM
    Lottie_3 wrote: »
    Hi, hoping someone can offer advice on Annual Leave calculated in hours.
    My employer has 2 different rota patterns, with two different contracted hours.
    One contract is for 40 hours per week, 8 hour days (Mon to Fri) , annual leave is 28 days incl Bank Holidays, (the minimum legal amount of 5.6)
    Second contract is a bit more confusing in a few areas!
    It is a rolling shift rota of 4 On, 4 Off, 12 hour shifts for 3 days and 12.5 hours for 1 day.
    First our contract states we are employed/paid for 42.5 hours per week
    We also get the 28 days incl Bank Holidays, and we are querying if this has been correctly calculated?
    From information I have been able to find the legal amount of 5.6 annual leave for employee is done through a calculation of an 8 hour day on a 40 hour contract?
    So for example: Someone on the 8 hour a day contract for 4 working days off use 32 hours leave.
    Someone on the 12 hour day contract would use 48.5 hours (1 x 12.5 hours, 3 x 12 hours)

    Any help makes any sense of this would be greatly appreciated, as whenever try to talk / explain with managers this gets, brushed away and not addressed.
    Thanks

    You are entitled to 5.6 weeks which if working 4 on 4 off gives you a minimum of 19.6 days leave per year,
    You both end up with 5.6 weeks leave
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
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