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Dual boot, OS clean install, but still icons from other OS appear.

Hi folks,

I have a few installations of windows 10 on two separate partitions on an SSD drive on my computer, one is a barebones windows 10, that I use for general surfing and the other windows 10 installation has a lot of music apps etc.

I was having some probs on one of the installations of 10 , the barebones installation and did a clean install on that partition, after formatting it.

Now I was surprised to see some of the music icons from the other installation appear on the desktop after installation, and wonder what is the explanation for this, is it possible that I have somehow asked Microsoft to back up my apps (a little like the android system) and they are simply restoring them to the new installation which I don't want.

Any help gratefully appreciated.
Many thanks
Joe
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  • grumpycrab
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    I have a few installations of windows 10 on two separate partitions on an SSD drive on my computer...
    I won't even ask why...
    There's a certain amount of syncing with the same account (don't know the details), but you can control it in settings... type sync your settings in Cortana/search.
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  • Neil_Jones
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    This sounds like you signed into a Microsoft account on both installations so they will sync between the two.
    Easiest solution is to switch one to a local account and the problem should resolve itself.

    I must question though why you have multiple installations?
  • Thanks for replies.

    One of the installations is also for online banking as well, an extra layer of security in my opinion, though it does mean rebooting the computer into it.

    I have always done things this way, there is absolutely no way I will combine general internet surfing and online banking together, or for that matter do any kind of banking on a mobile phone.
  • Neil_Jones
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    Thanks for replies.

    One of the installations is also for online banking as well, an extra layer of security in my opinion, though it does mean rebooting the computer into it.

    I have always done things this way, there is absolutely no way I will combine general internet surfing and online banking together, or for that matter do any kind of banking on a mobile phone.

    Wouldn't it be far more beneficial to just use a laptop or a tablet for banking?
  • stragglebod
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    Or rather than dual boot, install Virtualbox and create a virtual linux machine to do your banking. Much less hassle.
  • System
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    edited 27 May 2019 at 2:10PM
    Thanks for replies.

    One of the installations is also for online banking as well, an extra layer of security in my opinion, though it does mean rebooting the computer into it.

    I have always done things this way, there is absolutely no way I will combine general internet surfing and online banking together, or for that matter do any kind of banking on a mobile phone.

    It really doesn't achieve anything. What malware will do is basically scan your hard drive for executables and infect anything it can find. If the partitions for those other installs are able to be viewed from the current one you're running then chances are they'll get infected too.
    I have always done things this way, there is absolutely no way I will combine general internet surfing and online banking together, or for that matter do any kind of banking on a mobile phone.

    I have no idea why not. I've not had an issue in the entire time I've had computers which pre-dates the internet by at least a decade so we're talking the thick end of four decades. You're being unnecessarily paranoid and you're actually doing it wrong if you want to be sure of security. What you're currently doing is half assed playing at being secure. At the very least what you should be doing is using separate physical hard drives for every Windows install ,not just partitions on the same hard drive, and every time you boot entering the BIOS disabling the SATA channel the HDD of the Windows installs you're not using. Anything less than that and you might as well not bother and just have one single Windows install you use for everything.

    If you wanted to be truly secure then you wouldn't be using Windows at all, rather you'd be using Linux or Unix or BSD etc and using a file system for those OSes such as EXT4 that Windows doesn't support.
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  • that
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    A lot like Trambor said but if you do not want a separate disk use a virtual PC like hyper-v, vmware, virtualbox etc

    Your was is asking for trouble, specially if you need to recover. if you use gpt, a basic win 10 install has 3 partitions : Recovery Partition, EFI System. and C. Will installing a second version make another 3, and when it does not work, if is difficult to know which one is being used where
  • justaquestion
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    Tarambor wrote: »
    It really doesn't achieve anything. What malware will do is basically scan your hard drive for executables and infect anything it can find. If the partitions for those other installs are able to be viewed from the current one you're running then chances are they'll get infected too.



    I have no idea why not. I've not had an issue in the entire time I've had computers which pre-dates the internet by at least a decade so we're talking the thick end of four decades. You're being unnecessarily paranoid and you're actually doing it wrong if you want to be sure of security. What you're currently doing is half assed playing at being secure. At the very least what you should be doing is using separate physical hard drives for every Windows install ,not just partitions on the same hard drive, and every time you boot entering the BIOS disabling the SATA channel the HDD of the Windows installs you're not using. Anything less than that and you might as well not bother and just have one single Windows install you use for everything.

    If you wanted to be truly secure then you wouldn't be using Windows at all, rather you'd be using Linux or Unix or BSD etc and using a file system for those OSes such as EXT4 that Windows doesn't support.

    Thanks for replies, all very good points and taken in that spirit that I really want to learn.

    Can I ask, does going into disk management and hiding the banking partition from the current one that I don't bank on, and just do general surfing on help any?

    Or using Sandboxie for browsing as any infection 99% of the time will stay in the sandbox.

    Thanks once again.
  • debitcardmayhem
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    Thanks for replies.

    One of the installations is also for online banking as well, an extra layer of security in my opinion, though it does mean rebooting the computer into it.

    I have always done things this way, there is absolutely no way I will combine general internet surfing and online banking together, or for that matter do any kind of banking on a mobile phone.
    Why ?

    Again why ..same machine same disks



    Virtual machines are a good idea , but if you want to be extra sure use a Live Unix CD image either from a USB and boot that , or do the same in a VM as an ISO , none of your banking details get stored that way(unless the host with the VM is compromised then it's possible) .Of course you need to connect to the net to do online banking so all bets are really off. Sadly all the online banks etc I use want you to enable advertising sites, Adobe omniture, and other trackers etc,. Ideally you need to tie down the bank site in your local hosts file, and set your routes to ignore everything else, unfortunately life is not so simple, and the banks(or any site eg this one) don't help.
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  • justaquestion
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    edited 27 May 2019 at 10:08PM
    Thanks for that, I am somewhat surprised though that to date the banks have not invented some way of totally isolating the banking environment from the general net.

    I do use trusteer report as recommended by the banks, but the thought has crossed my mind that somehow sooner or later a massive security hole might arise in it, and could be exploited by hackers to capture all your login details.

    But what can you do, only take the advice of the banks, run antivirus and hope for the best.

    I have used a live Linux DVD in the past just out of curiosity, so do you think that would work with all the banking sites in uk, and as it is a live DVD doesn't need antivirus etc?
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