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Hope someone can help.
My parents had a property trust will. Dad passed away 6 years ago so a trust would have come into being at that time with Mum and I being trustees (I'm the only child) thus protecting 1/2 the property. Mum 92 has now moved into a care home and the property has been sold to pay the care fees. Solicitors have completed the sale and paid half the proceeds to mums account and half to mine. Is this what would usually happen. Thanks in advance
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  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
    gibbo9 wrote: »
    Hope someone can help.
    My parents had a property trust will. Dad passed away 6 years ago so a trust would have come into being at that time with Mum and I being trustees (I'm the only child) thus protecting 1/2 the property. Mum 92 has now moved into a care home and the property has been sold to pay the care fees. Solicitors have completed the sale and paid half the proceeds to mums account and half to mine. Is this what would usually happen. Thanks in advance
    Yes this is quite normal. The trust has served its purpose.
  • gibbo9
    gibbo9 Posts: 44 Forumite
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    Many thanks for the prompt reply. I'd got myself in a bit of a pickle concerning this. Does this sort of event potentially trigger any CGT liability. Thanks in advance again
  • Yorkshireman99
    Yorkshireman99 Posts: 5,470 Forumite
    edited 25 May 2019 at 8:39PM
    gibbo9 wrote: »
    Many thanks for the prompt reply. I'd got myself in a bit of a pickle concerning this. Does this sort of event potentially trigger any CGT liability. Thanks in advance again
    If the trust has liquidated the trust assets as seems to be the case then there is no liability on you. Any liability would be borne by the trust prior to distribution.
  • gibbo9
    gibbo9 Posts: 44 Forumite
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    Many thanks again
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    Depends on the type of trust what the tax situation with regards to CGT and IHT.
  • Dewpoint
    Dewpoint Posts: 155 Forumite
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    edited 3 July 2019 at 9:13AM
    I want a Will that allows my sister to benefit from the invested income from the sale of my property (and any savings, investments etc that I may have) when I die (assuming she survives me), otherwise (or on her death if she does survive me) the income is shared between my surviving three children until they reach pensionable age, at which time the residual capital is to be shared between any grandchildren. In the absence of grandchildren, the capital goes nominated charities.


    I have no contact with my children and have no one I can really depend on to administer this will after my death. I need a way to appoint Trustees via a legal mechanism so that my wishes are respected.


    I've read that a Trust Will is the way to go. Anyone help? :smiley:
  • Keep_pedalling
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    Dewpoint wrote: »
    I want a Will that allows my sister to benefit from the invested income from the sale of my property (and any savings, investments etc that I may have) when I die (assuming she survives me), otherwise (or on her death if she does survive me) the income is shared between my surviving three children until they reach pensionable age, at which time the residual capital is to be shared between any grandchildren. In the absence of grandchildren, the capital goes nominated charities.


    I have no contact with my children and have no one I can really depend on to administer this will after my death. I need a way to appoint Trustees via a legal mechanism so that my wishes are respected.


    I've read that a Trust Will is the way to go. Anyone help? :smiley:

    Difficult, the cost to administer such a trust is likely to eat up most of the income generated by it, especially if you appoint professional administrators.
  • getmore4less
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    That is what my grandmother did with first life tenant her hubby hers was distributed per sterpes

    Last child dissolved the trust early.

    It does not have to be that expensive to administer but long term it needs to be equity based.

    As it currently reads there are potential flaws, as each of the 3 children reaches pension age(which pension age?) they lose their share to the other children then child.

    What if a grandchildren have children but die charity gets it.
  • Dewpoint
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    Yes - I will set a specific date e.g. 2047 when my childrens' benefit ends and then the capital is shared equally among grandchildren (if any). If no grandchildren, or they no longer survive, the money goes to nominated charities in equal shares.
  • Malthusian
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    Dewpoint wrote: »
    I want a Will that allows my sister to benefit from the invested income from the sale of my property (and any savings, investments etc that I may have) when I die (assuming she survives me), otherwise (or on her death if she does survive me) the income is shared between my surviving three children until they reach pensionable age, at which time the residual capital is to be shared between any grandchildren.

    A rather strange wish, to take the income away from your children at the point they need it most. And distribute the capital to their children who at this point will probably be at the peak of their careers and may have no need of the money, so not only is the income switched to people who need it a lot less but they would pay more tax on it.

    Plus your children will have reached different ages when they are 2047 (unless they are triplets) (and people retire at different ages anyway) so it has absolutely nothing to do with "pensionable age", it's arbitrary.

    HMRC will love you for writing your Will this way but I'm not sure anyone else will.

    Why does this seem like a good idea?
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