Blue Badge Scheme

poppy12345

K80_Black wrote: »

Until recently, the 12 point descriptor included 'for reasons other than psychological distress' - which was shown to be discriminatory to those with mental health issues and dropped. I think they kept the 10 point descriptor about psychological distress to avoid having to bump everyone on that one up to 12 points and give them high rate mobility - unless you're suggesting it's somehow right that someone who can leave the house at all (supposedly) is somehow entitled to more points than those who cannot leave at all?

I agree that the wording of that particular descriptor is ambiguous, but it's purely because the government used to think it was somehow different for the mentally ill.

That's not what i'm saying. You seem to be misunderstanding what i'm trying to say but never mind. Thanks for you imput anyway.

K80_Black

poppy12345 wrote: »

That's not what i'm saying. You seem to be misunderstanding what i'm trying to say but never mind. Thanks for you imput anyway.

I am misunderstanding you. I'm saying that the pip descriptors are awful and the 10 point one is hugely misleading as until recently there were only 2 to choose from if you had psychological issues. You seem to be debating my interpretation of them, despite the face that's what I've been awarded and I know what I told the assessor.

Please, explain to me your problem with people with mental issues getting a blue badge. I'd love to hear your reasoning behind it (other than the fact that the only descriptor they could attain until recently is badly worded).

poppy12345

K80_Black wrote: »

Please, explain to me your problem with people with mental issues getting a blue badge. I'd love to hear your reasoning behind it (other than the fact that the only descriptor they could attain until recently is badly worded).

I don't have any problems with those that have mental health issues getting a BB, this is where you're misunderstanding me.



What i do think is unfair is that only those that scored points for descriptor E in following and planning a journey will automatically qualify for the BB and that's not until recently. This is what the new rules will be from August 2019.



If you scored points in any other descriptor for following and planning a journey you will not automatically qualify for the BB and this is what i think is unfair.



My daughter suffers with mental health, ASD and a learning disability but because she scored points for descriptor F she won't get the BB, the same as any other person.

bspm1

calcotti wrote: »

Presumably they might not and could easily become housebound.

And that calcotti is another thread entirely!

I will leave this thread alone now I think, but will watch with interest.

K80_Black

poppy12345 wrote: »

I don't have any problems with those that have mental health issues getting a BB, this is where you're misunderstanding me.



What i do think is unfair is that only those that scored points for descriptor E in following and planning a journey will automatically qualify for the BB and that's not until recently. This is what the new rules will be from August 2019.



If you scored points in any other descriptor for following and planning a journey you will not automatically qualify for the BB and this is what i think is unfair.



My daughter suffers with mental health, ASD and a learning disability but because she scored points for descriptor F she won't get the BB, the same as any other person.

I'm sorry you're so tunnel visioned to your own personal issues. This is a big deal to those of us who haven't been taken seriously for the past 5 or so years, have been underpaid compared to those with physical disabilities and have had to fight for change. I'm glad your daughter can benefit from those changes and was awarded high rate pip. If you think the current situation is unfair to those who are paid higher rate mobility - do what we did, and campaign for change. Write to your MP instead of debating the wording of PIP descriptors with a schizophrenic.

poppy12345

K80_Black wrote: »

I'm sorry you're so tunnel visioned to your own personal issues. This is a big deal to those of us who haven't been taken seriously for the past 5 or so years, have been underpaid compared to those with physical disabilities and have had to fight for change. I'm glad your daughter can benefit from those changes and was awarded high rate pip. If you think the current situation is unfair to those who are paid higher rate mobility - do what we did, and campaign for change. Write to your MP instead of debating the wording of PIP descriptors with a schizophrenic.

What on earth are you talking about? I have no problems with those that have mental health claiming the BB!! I have no problems with those that have mental health claiming mobility!!



FYI my daughter doesn't claim Enhanced mobility because of OPD she claims it for a totally different reason, so the changes wouldn't have affected her. She would have been entitled to it even before the changes took place.



I wasn't even debating the wording of the PIP descriptors with you. This thread is about the blue badge!


You really are misunderstanding what exactly it is i'm talking about. For this reason i'll end it here and will make no further comments on the thread.

K80_Black

poppy12345 wrote: »

What on earth are you talking about? I have no problems with those that have mental health claiming the BB!! I have no problems with those that have mental health claiming mobility!!



FYI my daughter doesn't claim Enhanced mobility because of OPD she claims it for a totally different reason, so the changes wouldn't have affected her. She would have been entitled to it even before the changes took place.



I wasn't even debating the wording of the PIP descriptors with you. This thread is about the blue badge!


You really are misunderstanding what exactly it is i'm talking about. For this reason i'll end it here and will make no further comments on the thread.

You still won't clarify exactly why you're so adamant that if I cannot leave the house I shouldn't need a blue badge - one thing you have said on multiple occasions on this thread. I have explained multiple times that the descriptor means 'without help' - I don't see what your earlier replies are about aside from this.

You're free to bow out of the conversation if you want. I have tried to enlighten you and other people about the struggles mentally ill people have faced in regards to the blue badge and other mobility issues, but you just seem to be worried that your daughter doesn't automatically qualify and others will. If your daughter deserves a blue badge, she should be able to apply for one like almost everyone else.

ev8

poppy12345 wrote: »

I don't have any problems with those that have mental health issues getting a BB, this is where you're misunderstanding me.



What i do think is unfair is that only those that scored points for descriptor E in following and planning a journey will automatically qualify for the BB and that's not until recently. This is what the new rules will be from August 2019.



If you scored points in any other descriptor for following and planning a journey you will not automatically qualify for the BB and this is what i think is unfair.



My daughter suffers with mental health, ASD and a learning disability but because she scored points for descriptor F she won't get the BB, the same as any other person.

Sorry, I'm having a more 'fuzzy' day and can't quite make sense of this.

So, some people won't qualify for a BB as they score too highly? Am I reading this correctly?

And to the point of blue badges for mental health, I kind of agree with the person who said perhaps they are not as needed as those with physical conditions.

I have both mental health issues and physical ones. It's the physical reasons that are harder getting places in and out of a car, and why I'd need to be parked closer.

poppy12345

ev8 wrote: »

So, some people won't qualify for a BB as they score too highly? Am I reading this correctly?

For following and planning a journey that's correct. When the rules changes take place you must have scored 10 points in descriptor E to automatically qualify.

ev8

poppy12345 wrote: »

For following and planning a journey that's correct. When the rules changes take place you must have scored 10 points in descriptor E to automatically qualify.

Thank you. So 10 will qualify, but 12 is too much? It seems a little weird that the worse off you are the less you qualify.