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Help please - how to appeal if case is with debt collectors

edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking
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MimokaneMimokane Forumite
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edited 30 November -1 at 1:00AM in Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking
Hi there,

I have read the NEWBIES thread advising to either ignore the debt collectors letters or respond robustly, and advising that it is never too late to appeal a PCN. However, I'm unsure how it is I can appeal when the online appeal system just says the case is with the Debt Collector, and doesn't allow me to proceed any further. I have no email address for them. You advise to avoid sending appeals by post where possible, so I'm not sure whether there is some way around the online appeals problem but being able to keep a record of the fact that an appeal was lodged?

Many thanks in advance

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  • UmkomaasUmkomaas Forumite
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    Which parking company please?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask.
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  • The_DeepThe_Deep Forumite
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    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams and will fail in court so complain to your MP.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.
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  • Half_wayHalf_way Forumite
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    who's car park was this?
    what parking company?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • beamerguybeamerguy Forumite
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    Mimokane wrote: »
    Hi there,

    I have read the NEWBIES thread advising to either ignore the debt collectors letters or respond robustly, and advising that it is never too late to appeal a PCN. However, I'm unsure how it is I can appeal when the online appeal system just says the case is with the Debt Collector, and doesn't allow me to proceed any further. I have no email address for them. You advise to avoid sending appeals by post where possible, so I'm not sure whether there is some way around the online appeals problem but being able to keep a record of the fact that an appeal was lodged?

    Many thanks in advance

    There is no appeal available now as it is at debt collector stage

    The good news is that in the parking scam, debt collectors are simply worthless, powerless sewer life... WHICH YOU IGNORE
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  • MimokaneMimokane Forumite
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    Half_way wrote: »
    who's car park was this?
    what parking company?

    The company is F1rst Parking
    The ticket was issued at a hospital car park where I work
  • MimokaneMimokane Forumite
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    Half_way wrote: »
    who's car park was this?
    what parking company?
    beamerguy wrote: »
    There is no appeal available now as it is at debt collector stage

    The good news is that in the parking scam, debt collectors are simply worthless, powerless sewer life... WHICH YOU IGNORE

    But if I ignore the fine at this stage, won't it just get worse? I thought the point was to appeal so that it can be frozen and then I can hopefully argue my case from there?

    I am also sure that I never received a PCN on my car in the first place. But I've read somewhere on the forum that the company is under no obligation to issue an NTD. However, I also didn't receive an NTK, but instead the first I knew about it was the debt collectors letters.
  • waamowaamo Forumite
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    The opportunity to appeal has now passed. They won't even read it and certainly won't freeze anything.

    What you do now is wait for a Letter Before Claim. You will recognise this as it will have financial information forms included in the letter. You respond to this robustly in the hope it will deter them from court proceedings.
    This space for hire.
  • RedxRedx Forumite
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    in the meantime get out your V5C and check the correct name and correct address are on it, any errors etc should be taken up with the DVLA asap


    if the details are correct, put an email complaint in to the BPA AOS team about the lack of prior paperwork, also emailing a SAR to the PPC to get copies of those missing documents and look for errors etc
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    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
  • Half_wayHalf_way Forumite
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    another question, why did your vehicle attract a parking charge notice?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Coupon-madCoupon-mad Forumite
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    Do what Redx said, to flush out a copy of any PCN or NTK and photos:
    put an email complaint in to the BPA AOS team about the lack of prior paperwork, also emailing a SAR to the PPC to get copies of those missing documents and look for errors etc
    The BPA complaint sometimes opens up appeal again for you.

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    The SAR is explained with a linked example, in the second post of the NEWBIES thread.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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