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Laser speed camera - distance could be wrong

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  • MEM62
    MEM62 Posts: 5,309 Forumite
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    a.turner wrote: »
    You're no doubt aware that other than a sometimes untrained police officers opinion only a small percentage of accidents have any investigation work done to establish speed.

    No I am not. Due diligence would not allow an investigator to exclude any potential causal factors from their considerations.
  • a.turner
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    edited 15 May 2019 at 1:15PM
    MEM62 wrote: »
    No I am not. Due diligence would not allow an investigator to exclude any potential causal factors from their considerations.

    Yes, but the statistics come from all accidents whether the police have attended the scene or not. Some books are completed by civilian front counter staff. Often causation is an opinion and without any facts to support it.


    Unless of course you would be happy with a massive tax increase to pay for what you think happens.
  • Car_54
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    a.turner wrote: »
    Yes, but the statistics come from all accidents whether the police have attended the scene or not. Some books are completed by civilian front counter staff. Often causation is an opinion and without any facts to support it.


    Unless of course you would be happy with a massive tax increase to pay for what you think happens.
    Can you point us to the source for these much-quoted stats?


    I'd guess the majority of accidents are not reported to the police at all.
  • mattyprice4004
    mattyprice4004 Posts: 7,492 Forumite
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    Oh really, another 'my friend (cough, friend) was a complete **** but got caught, waaaah' thread.

    Focus less on how to wriggle out, and more on driving safely in future.
    Sorry, I mean your friend - not you.
  • MEM62
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    Can you point us to the source for these much-quoted stats?


    I'd guess the majority of accidents are not reported to the police at all.

    Those that are not reported would not be investigated and therefore would form part of any stats that we are discussing. Whilst a.turner may have a point in that some incidents may be looked into by less qualified staff I cannot see that this would be the case of KSI's and these are types of accidents that I am referring to.
  • Car_54
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    MEM62 wrote: »
    Those that are not reported would not be investigated and therefore would form part of any stats that we are discussing. Whilst a.turner may have a point in that some incidents may be looked into by less qualified staff I cannot see that this would be the case of KSI's and these are types of accidents that I am referring to.
    But earlier you referred to "every RTA".
  • MEM62
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    But earlier you referred to "every RTA".

    Yes, in the context that any kind of accident has multiple events leading up to it and that, if you remove any one of those, the accident does not happen - even just not getting out of bed that day. It is a wider comment on the subject of accidents. But I am sure you got the point are not going to reduce the debate to pedantry over that way I worded once sentence are you?
  • a.turner
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    Can you point us to the source for these much-quoted stats?


    I'd guess the majority of accidents are not reported to the police at all.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/road-accidents-and-safety-statistics
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