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Power of attorney

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  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 36,449 Forumite
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    edited 8 May 2019 at 11:45AM
    Just putting in a thought in case anyone else is/ever becomes concerned whether someone with this can be trusted or no.

    I googled under "power of attorney abuse cases UK" to see what would come up and there looks to be a good amount of information there.

    One of the first articles I came to was:
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/101199

    which is a very clear article and I was pleased to note that it's my own firm of solicitors that has written it.

    Worrying to see that there does seem to be a noticeable amount of abuse of this type happening, so I'm certainly not being unrealistic to worry that it might be a possibility, but "forewarned is forearmed" and I'm aware the close relative that is married to the person concerned has a bad track record and I have to assume that their spouse (the attorney) knows about what they've done and could even have put them up to it.

    You still need evidence for the OPG to investigate, even more so for them to take action. I am currently working with someone where there is a safeguarding in place with regards to the power of attorney, but the OPG is being very cautious in checking out the situation and clarifying evidence and will not take action without it.
    More so because the person themselves wishes the power of attorney to continue as it is, and is considered to have capacity around this. It's not always clear cut.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • Browntoa
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    You can register for notifications for the property on the land registry website

    https://propertyalert.landregistry.gov.uk

    Any change will be notified to you , the property does not need to be yours
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  • MoneySeeker1
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    Browntoa - thank you.
    I've had my own house on property alert for a while as a protective measure.
    It hadnt occurred to me to put any other property on the "alert". However, I have gone to the website and tried to put their house on it and also the person with power of attorney (bearing in mind your comment about Facebook giveaway signs). So the person with that power of attorney has had their house added to my alert register. I tried to add my parents house and, when it came to the bit for "search for property" and I put in their address it came back with nothing. I am guessing that is because it's possible their house isn't Registered yet (as they bought it back in the 1970s - so it may be that houses that haven't changed hands since that date aren't Registered yet). So I drew a blank on putting that house on the Property Alert.

    Regarding your Facebook comment, I put in a Facebook friend request. I've not had it accepted yet and won't be unduly surprised if they ignore it.
  • pphillips
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    If it's not on there it hast been registered so I think you will need to keep checking the register until there has been event triggering registration or ask Land Registry if they can keep you updated.
  • onwards&upwards
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    Is it a son or daughter in law who has POA now?
  • MoneySeeker1
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    edited 8 May 2019 at 5:11PM
    They are my siblings marriage partner.

    Hence not a close relative themselves, but married to one.

    Does this make a difference? Though, from my pov, it certainly does, as it means that my sibling is probably (almost certainly) using the fact that they are married to this person with power of attorney to ascertain full facts as to what is going on. So, if one of my parents' children has the full facts (because of being married to this person), then the other one of my parents' children (ie me) should also have the full facts. My sibling and I are equal in the fact that neither of us have this power of attorney now - but sibling is doubtless picking the attorney's brains and taking advantage of being married to them. So it's not a level playing field of either we both know everything or neither of us knows anything.

    Knowing my sibling as I do, they will doubtless be using the fact that they are married to this person and I'm not.
  • onwards&upwards
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    I’m sure your parents knew that when they made their son/daughter-in-law their attorney that they would discuss things with their spouse.

    You need to come to terms with the fact that you have absolutely no right to know any of your parents’ business. I’m sorry you feel rejected and excluded but your parents had every right to make the decision they did.

    Perhaps you could see it as liberating?
  • elsien
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    They are my siblings marriage partner.

    Hence not a close relative themselves, but married to one.

    Does this make a difference? Though, from my pov, it certainly does, as it means that my sibling is probably (almost certainly) using the fact that they are married to this person with power of attorney to ascertain full facts as to what is going on. So, if one of my parents' children has the full facts (because of being married to this person), then the other one of my parents' children (ie me) should also have the full facts. My sibling and I are equal in the fact that neither of us have this power of attorney now - but sibling is doubtless picking the attorney's brains and taking advantage of being married to them. So it's not a level playing field of either we both know everything or neither of us knows anything.

    Knowing my sibling as I do, they will doubtless be using the fact that they are married to this person and I'm not.


    There are so many assumptions in this post where in reality you can't possibly know either way. It does seem from outside that you're just looking for things, which isn't a particularly healthy way to be going about anything. You have no evidence at all of any wrong doing - FB posts showing expensive items just shows how they prefer to spend their money. It does not indicate in any way that your mother is being ripped off.
    You need to step back and see how things go.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
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