Should I ask for a gas safety and electrical certificate? Vendor moved boiler himself

Norman_Castle

Zopeeclone wrote: »

I checked on this link that someone provided:
(Can't post it cause I'm a new user! But it's the gassaferegister.com)

And it says there was a gas boiler under work category done 3 years ago which matches what they've told me.

You said a new boiler was fitted 3 years ago then moved by the owner. You need proof that the current installation is safe and compliant.

SG27

Zopeeclone wrote: »

Okay I've just rang the estate agent to ask the vendor to either supply the gas safety record and electrical certificate or I'll hire someone to go round, and they told me that they actually ask for that too!
I said will I be able to see a copy of it and he believed I could on exchange of contracts? Does this sound usual to you guys? I might ring up another day and try to speak to someone else to clarify it a bit better.

I don't know why they wouldn't let me see the certificates before I put my name to paper?

Nope not on exchange of contracts. It must be before. Once contracts are exchanged it is too late. You need to satisfy your self you are happy BEFORE contracts are exchanged as there is no going back once that happens. (Not without huge costs anyway)

They may not been any electrical certificate unless the vendor has had electrical work done that would have required it. (Or something was passed to him from the previous vendor)

If the only entry on the gas safe website is the original boiler installation from 3 years ago then it means the moving of the boiler wasnt done by someone gas safe registered. You basically knew this anyway as the vendor DIYed it. He may have had building control come out to check his work but I think thats unlikely, you should be able to search the local authority website to check for building control certificate. You would probably want to get the boiler installation checked over to ensure its safe. Before exchange obviously. Do your homebuyers survey first, as the survey my point out other areas you may also want to get extra checks on.

kinger101

I'd be asking myself what else the vendor might have bodged.

Albala

mpr87 wrote: »

I'm in a very similar situation. I'm a FTB and the house we are purchasing had a new boiler fitted last year but there are absolutely no documents, No proof of any warranty/services and the boiler isn't registered on the gas safe register.



I told the EA 2 months ago that we want to make sure we get the relevant documents or at the least we want to pay for someone to inspect that boiler to make sure it is safe. Vendor told us it would all be sorted and docs would be sent to the Solicitors.



As of yet we have had nothing and are getting close to exchange, I reckon the EA has just fobbed us off thinking we will either forget or just exchange without. Either way once our vendor is ready to exchange we won't be signing anything until we have had the boiler checked. Not something I want to take a chance on.

If the EA won't deal with it, perhaps you could get your solicitors to 'get very firm about it with'* their solicitors? I can't imagine your solicitors think it's a good idea for you not to get that stuff a.s.a.p.


*Light a metaphorical fire under

markin

Albala wrote: »

Agreed, and that's what I'd do, as a buyer, in these circs.. Better safe than sorry, and better to know what you're in for. Also, the boiler may have a certificate for the move. The OP could at least take a look here for free to see when the last certificate was issued:
https://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/notifications/search-for-a-notification/
If I knew a seller had moved a boiler himself, I'd definitely want my own gas inspection, and evidence the boiler had a certificate for the installation after the move.

"If the notification you are searching for relates to work done before 1 April 2009 you will need to contact CORGI Services Ltd"



Corgi "The legislation was not in place prior to 2005 so there was no legal requirement."


What was the prior to 2005 ?

markin

Zopeeclone wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies!
I checked on this link that someone provided:
(Can't post it cause I'm a new user! But it's the gassaferegister.com)

And it says there was a gas boiler under work category done 3 years ago which matches what they've told me.

The consensus seems to be I should conduct my own gas and electrical checks then? And pay for it myself. Should I wait until after the homebuyers survey has completed?

Thanks again

But unless it lists the previous work or describes the work done at that date on that site you don't know if that was just a replacement that the owner then moved 2 months later.

Did it give an explanation of what that actually means?


Sounds like the EA is trying it on knowing its an illegal move.

Bacon_Sandwich

Your home buyers report will recommend further inspection of the gas and electrical installations anyway.

The idea of a diy gas bodge by a non-qualified person just makes me shudder. People die from DIY gas bodges. They die. There are no indemnities that will replace dead children, or dead you.

davidmcn

Bacon_Sandwich wrote: »

The idea of a diy gas bodge by a non-qualified person just makes me shudder.

I wonder if there are crossed wires here - OP, are you sure the seller didn't say "I moved the boiler" just meaning it was work he instructed, rather than he literally did it himself?