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NS&I still worth it?

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  • davidwatts
    davidwatts Posts: 354 Forumite
    Not the best option if the £50k is all or most of the money you have to save or invest; perhaps more attractive if it's part of a £1M personal portfolio that you have to manage! Assuming it's somewhere in the middle, you (literally) pays your money and takes your chances.

    I'm not a higher rate tax payer but I deem having PBs worth it.
  • inflationbuster
    inflationbuster Posts: 254 Forumite
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    edited 14 April 2019 at 11:45PM
    Topaz99 wrote: »
    I did have some Premium Bonds years ago and withdrew as it wasn't much, but now I could afford to invest the full £50k limit (if it was worth it?)

    Are they still an attractive proposition? and if so, do you have easy quick access if you need to withdraw?

    For the 18-19 financial year l had the full £50K premium bonds invested return was £950 1.9% tax free. Approximately £79.16 a month average return. I'm a 40% tax payer so felt it was worth it and have quick access to the cash if needed. I post my returns/performance monthly on the premium bonds thread. I get far better returns in the stock market but this is one of a number of rainy day pots.
  • Brilley
    Brilley Posts: 229 Forumite
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    Topaz99 wrote: »
    So in short, worth it or not? LOL


    Yes, No, Maybe.....as per all the above good advice, it depends on your circumstances.....
  • AndyPK
    AndyPK Posts: 4,362 Forumite
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    I won a nice 3 digit sum this month. :)
    And I don't have that much invested.


    So I may as well withdraw the money now!
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 18,690 Forumite
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    Topaz99 wrote: »
    So in short, worth it or not? LOL

    If you can get 1.5% instant access elsewhere why bother unless you're a gambler that doesn't want to lose any of their stake. If you're prepared to risk some capital for a better return then I'd use investments instead.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • polymaff
    polymaff Posts: 3,950 Forumite
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    jimjames wrote: »
    If you can get 1.5% instant access elsewhere why bother unless you're a gambler that doesn't want to lose any of their stake. If you're prepared to risk some capital for a better return then I'd use investments instead.


    Tax, Jim, Tax.
  • webjaved
    webjaved Posts: 618 Forumite
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    It would depend on your own circumstances on whether NS&I are worth it or not.
    Save £12k in 2019 #154 - £14,826.60/£12k
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  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    edited 15 April 2019 at 3:55PM
    jimjames wrote: »
    If you can get 1.5% instant access elsewhere why bother unless you're a gambler that doesn't want to lose any of their stake. If you're prepared to risk some capital for a better return then I'd use investments instead.

    In my own case, if I get instant access elsewhere at 1.5% as you suggest and then pay 40 or 45% or 60% marginal rate of tax on it, the 1.5% would translate to only 0.9% or 0.825% or 0.6% after I had paid the income tax due.

    Whereas with PBs I can reasonably hope to win a couple of prizes a month on a little under £50k, and - with each of those prizes being worth £25 or more - the anticipated tax free rate of return of c. 1.2% is literally a third more net income than would be obtained from a (e.g.) 1.5% Marcus account after 40% tax and is potentially double what would be obtained from a Marcus account net of certain high marginal rates of tax.

    As it happens I have a large tax bill to pay next year and so medium risk investments would be inappropriate for such a timescale; and yes I already have a couple of decent current accounts and regular savers for normal day to day savings, before you start down that road. :)
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