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https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-55176156.html
This is the link for the house. They are almost next to each other. Constructive critism pl, why it is not selling? How much would you pay more for the 3 beds? I look forward to hear your comments. I know downstairs bathroom is a no no for some. I think the boiler is in a sealed cupboard in the second bedroom and this is putting me off. It is also quite small. Not suitable for a family in my opinion. Thanks
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  • -taff
    -taff Posts: 15,370 Forumite
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    edited 9 April 2019 at 10:05AM
    I don't understand the floor plan. If the toilet is downstairs, according to the floor plan it should be jutting out into the street...
    Ignore me, I looked at the pixtures first and they seem to describe the front door going into the kitchen first, which seemed a bit odd to me. I realised now they;re just not in a logical order.
    Non me fac calcitrare tuum culi
  • LuSiVe
    LuSiVe Posts: 1,059 Forumite
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    Isn't it at the back?
  • babyblade41
    babyblade41 Posts: 3,962 Forumite
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    -taff wrote: »
    I don't understand the floor plan. If the toilet is downstairs, according to the floor plan it should be jutting out into the street...
    The toilet is at the back of the house
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    Apart from downstairs bathrooms, I'm also never fond of staircases leading directly up from a room - in this case it just means all the kitchen noise / smells / heat / steam will go straight upstairs.
  • PasturesNew
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    Obviously, what people are looking for differs for everybody, else houses would only be built in one style :)

    It could be not selling because the people who do want to live in that house haven't sold theirs yet. It's in Harrow on the Hill, so I expect most of the buyers tend to be "people who work in London and have a dream of living in a cute cottage" - but they're unable to sell their current modern flat.

    I've never wished to live in a home like that... and, as you asked, here are my personal (and pretty irrelevant) thoughts on it:

    1/ It's old. I don't want old places, old = more expensive to maintain and having to put up with historical niggles and fix historical bodges.
    2/ It's right on the street, no frontage. Any fools/drunks can lumber by and knock on the windows/door for fun in the middle of the night, including being knocked into the door while drunk. I want boundaries.... and, talking of which, the pub's just 20 steps away, so there'll be plenty of drunks passing at peak times of the week/year
    3/ The bathroom's downstairs, which is unfortunate, but that's the way those old places are....
    4/ It's mid terrace, the fewer the direct neighbours, the better.
    5/ The garden doesn't get much sun, if you want to get any sun you'll have to "actually leave the house, go out, get dressed to go out, work out where to go out"... no "stepping outside to spend the day sitting in the sun in the garden as it never gets the sun, ever.
    6/ No parking..... so trouble loading/unloading the car, receiving visitors, cleaning the car.
    7/ It seems overpriced, for what it is and the current market. It'd be the most expensive house sold ever on the whole road.... with no great redeeming features as "it's just a cottage".

    The one two doors down, at £30k more, isn't really a 3 bed, but that 3rd bedroom space does give you "a general clutter room", or an option to do something different with the space -and- their bathroom's upstairs. So you get more for the £30k difference than just an extra room, you get more than £30k's worth of extension - and the side passage to get your bins out. It's about 30% bigger, for space, for just £30k more.

    574 sq ft is tiny..... you need room for "stuff" - people think stuff is their belongings, but it's all that other stuff you need to run a house too. Vacuum, ironing board, airers, pegs, broom, brushes, buckets for cleaning, cleaning stuff, tools, spare lightbulbs, Xmas stuff, suitcases/camping/holiday stuff... just "stuff" :)
  • AdrianC
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    Well, there's certainly nothing wrong with the way it presents in the details. It's lovely.

    So... <drumroll> price.

    All within half a mile:
    Flat. Similar price, needs redecoration, but twice the size, inc garage - https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-61316172.html
    Terrace. Same price, not so nicely presented, but three bed and 60% more space - https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65976118.html
    Flat. Same price, just as nicely presented, 50% more space - https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-80087279.html
    Semi. Cheaper, fairly nice, 50% more space - https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-79667249.html
  • babyblade41
    babyblade41 Posts: 3,962 Forumite
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    Obviously, what people are looking for differs for everybody, else houses would only be built in one style :)

    It could be not selling because the people who do want to live in that house haven't sold theirs yet. It's in Harrow on the Hill, so I expect most of the buyers tend to be "people who work in London and have a dream of living in a cute cottage" - but they're unable to sell their current modern flat.

    I've never wished to live in a home like that... and, as you asked, here are my personal (and pretty irrelevant) thoughts on it:

    1/ It's old. I don't want old places, old = more expensive to maintain and having to put up with historical niggles and fix historical bodges.
    2/ It's right on the street, no frontage. Any fools/drunks can lumber by and knock on the windows/door for fun in the middle of the night, including being knocked into the door while drunk. I want boundaries.... and, talking of which, the pub's just 20 steps away, so there'll be plenty of drunks passing at peak times of the week/year
    3/ The bathroom's downstairs, which is unfortunate, but that's the way those old places are....
    4/ It's mid terrace, the fewer the direct neighbours, the better.
    5/ The garden doesn't get much sun, if you want to get any sun you'll have to "actually leave the house, go out, get dressed to go out, work out where to go out"... no "stepping outside to spend the day sitting in the sun in the garden as it never gets the sun, ever.
    6/ No parking..... so trouble loading/unloading the car, receiving visitors, cleaning the car.
    7/ It seems overpriced, for what it is and the current market. It'd be the most expensive house sold ever on the whole road.... with no great redeeming features as "it's just a cottage".

    The one two doors down, at £30k more, isn't really a 3 bed, but that 3rd bedroom space does give you "a general clutter room", or an option to do something different with the space -and- their bathroom's upstairs. So you get more for the £30k difference than just an extra room, you get more than £30k's worth of extension - and the side passage to get your bins out. It's about 30% bigger, for space, for just £30k more.

    574 sq ft is tiny..... you need room for "stuff" - people think stuff is their belongings, but it's all that other stuff you need to run a house too. Vacuum, ironing board, airers, pegs, broom, brushes, buckets for cleaning, cleaning stuff, tools, spare lightbulbs, Xmas stuff, suitcases/camping/holiday stuff... just "stuff" :)

    Totally agree on all the above except the "old house' I love old houses and all the little niggles but accept they can be more costly

    The only time I would have considered a property like that would be when I was very young pre children , but even then probably not
  • akira181
    akira181 Posts: 541 Forumite
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    edited 9 April 2019 at 11:23AM
    My opinion, it's well decorated and presented nicely but it's very expensive for what it is. Especially when you consider the last 2 properties AdrianC linked to. Notably more space for similar price or less, without the front door directly on the street, and just as nice or the potential to be.

    I think the prospective buyer would be a young professional, maybe a couple with no desire for kids, to fall in love with the quirks of the old property and be willing to compromise on the shortcomings. That limits the market on who may be interested and at that price (compared to other properties in the area), it further limits an already limited market. Also not sure what it's like in that area, but the council tax band is higher than I'd like too but that might just be me.

    Patience will be required to get the asking price that you want.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    simple research for this and the other one

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5988316/is-this-house-overpriced

    one mile 2b 3b 4b+

    350-400 036/15 06/02
    350-450 093/20 12/12 0/0
    350-500 117/23 39/28 3/1

    0-500 168/52 42/28 3/2

    over stocked with 2 bed and under stock of three beds

    filter out the flats shared and retirements

    0-500 100/43 39/24 3/2
    looks a bit better for the 2 bed sell through

    Go through the SSTC and see why they got picked.
  • Cakeguts
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    I actually know where this house is and I know the area. If you read the description is says a lot about what you can find in Harrow town and in Harrow on the Hill where Harrow school is located. What it carefully doesn't say is that this house is nearer to South Harrow than Harrow town. So your nearest shops are in South Harrow. The reason why it doesn't say this is because South Harrow has a not very good reputation.



    If you look at AdrianC's link to a house in South Harrow that shows the prices for South Harrow but this house is priced as if it was in the fashionable area of Harrow on the Hill and near to Harrow town which it isn't. It is really in South Harrow so the price should reflect that. This is why they can't sell them. For South Harrow prices they need to be priced in line with a small house terraced house in South Harrow. I would be suprised if you could get as much as £400k for a two bed in South Harrow. I would think £350k might be overpriced.
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