T-Roc Handbrake Failure

LilElvis

Joshua_G. wrote: »

Hi daveyjp

I'm sorry to hear about your friend

What was this recent history of arrogance..?

I expect he is referring to the software VW installed that fudged the emissions/ mpg data. It cost the company a small fortune in the US, but judging by the number of new VW cars on the road doesn't seem to have discouraged buyers in this country.

As far as your issue goes you are going too struggle with any resolution unless you can get proof that the handbrake is faulty.

My husband had an even more "interesting" problem with a 15 plate Volvo (can't remember what model - unless there's one called boring and poorly designed) which started itself 3 times when he wasn't even in it, and it wasn't keyless ignition. As he leaves cars in gear on one occasion it actually took off down the road - the handbrake had disengaged too. Fortunately it was a company car and he handed it back last month and bought himself a much nicer Tiguan - his second and joins mine, though his is a much posher R Line to my mid range model.

daveyjp

VW and arrogance goes back a long way.

1.6 FSi engines which burnt valves out.
1.4 TSi engines with a litany of faults they refused to acknowledge. Failing valves, superchargers, turbos, timing chains.
DSG gearboxes make of licorice.
1.5 TSi engines they now accept are faulty after months of denial
Dieselgate
Electric Handbrakes which fail (started with the Passat)

DoaM

lincroft1710 wrote: »

"Should" can actually mean "must". The VW dealer's conclusion may therefore be correct.

If they mean Must, then they must say Must. Should means what it says - it never means Must.

jonnyd281

DoaM wrote: »

If they mean Must, then they must say Must. Should means what it says - it never means Must.

If you go into some regulations, they also you "shall" to mean must. I did a course a few years ago where they discussed the difference between shall and should, must and may.

DoaM

Shall and Should are very different ... I can accept Shall as verging on the same definition as Must; Should? Not a chance.

forgotmyname

Joshua_G. wrote: »

Hi lincroft1710,

"Should" does in fact mean "should", I checked with a family member who is a lawyer. She also stated that as leaving the car in first when parked is not standard practise it is the responsibility of the seller to ensure that this advice is more obvious, instead of burying it in the manual

Thanks though!

When I was learning to to drive it was standard practice to always leave it in gear when parked, same as turning your wheel into the kerb on a hill.

My car is always in gear when parked.

nickcc

I was taught to never leave any vehicle in gear as drivers can forget to check when starting the engine, this also applies to HGV's and PSV's. Brief explanation as to why :- mechanic parks HGV leaves in gear and tilts cab, leans in between tilted cab to start engine, mechanic crushed to death as vehicle moves forwards into wall, this actually happened.

JamoLew

I am sure someone will tell me I am wrong (if I am) ---- BUT, I was under the impression that all e-brake cars would only start with the clutch in. Therefore leaving a vehicle with an e-brake in gear when parked shouldn't be an issue.

forgotmyname

nickcc wrote: »

I was taught to never leave any vehicle in gear as drivers can forget to check when starting the engine, this also applies to HGV's and PSV's. Brief explanation as to why :- mechanic parks HGV leaves in gear and tilts cab, leans in between tilted cab to start engine, mechanic crushed to death as vehicle moves forwards into wall, this actually happened.

And yet a 2006 Ford 7.5 ton, (cannot remember the exact model) beeped like crazy if you took the key out of the ignition whilst in neutral.

And how many trucks have rolled off the ramps because they left the handbrake off?

The service place we used had to bring in rules that chocs must be used before the driver got out of the vehicle on the ramps.

HGV tester had no issues with me leaving it in gear when i switched the engine off.

nickcc

forgotmyname wrote: »

And yet a 2006 Ford 7.5 ton, (cannot remember the exact model) beeped like crazy if you took the key out of the ignition whilst in neutral.

And how many trucks have rolled off the ramps because they left the handbrake off?

The service place we used had to bring in rules that chocs must be used before the driver got out of the vehicle on the ramps.

HGV tester had no issues with me leaving it in gear when i switched the engine off.

Not talking about the test station as you don't leave the vehicle cab whilst the vehicle is tested, years ago you could leave the cab and actually carry out minor repairs but certainly no longer. HGV's and PSV's wherever I've worked are maintained over pits which are always on the level so leaving the handbrake off and out of gear was always the rule.