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Earth bonding of gas and water

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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    edited 5 April 2019 at 2:14PM
    When I started teaching, it took about a week for me to realise my job was not to pass on everything I knew, but to provide insights to pupils in a logical order and in a manner appropriate to them. They'd do the rest.

    About a week later, I also realised that being in a room with the same people each day wasn't going to be a great career unless we all felt valued and had pleasant social experiences for the majority of the time.

    When I retired, those ideas hadn't changed a lot.
  • stragglebod
    stragglebod Posts: 1,324 Forumite
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    Well, @Owain Moneysaver was the one who answered my question :)

    Thank you Owain
  • EachPenny
    EachPenny Posts: 12,239 Forumite
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    NowI don't know about the most helpful, but in my opinion, I would certainly say the most arrogant.
    Risteard, being helpful doesn't just mean being knowledgeable. It also means being able to pass that knowledge on to others in a way that they can or will accept, something that you with your superior, self righteous attitude simply can't manage.
    I don't think that is very fair.

    Being helpful includes passing on the correct use of terminology and pointing out to people when the terms they are using are incorrect. If you use the wrong term when talking about something technical it creates the potential for confusion - and from the customer perspective the risk of paying for something you don't need or getting the wrong thing done.

    Risteard was correct to point out there is a difference between earthing and bonding.

    Being helpful also sometimes means not giving information on a public forum. The OP might be planning to get a competent electrician to carry out the work, but the next person reading the thread might be amd keen DIYer who will take the advice given and try to do the work themselves.

    From the information the thread now contains they will know what the OP needs to do is possible, and they will know not to cut the bonding conductor. But they don't know the correct size of bonding conductor to use, the correct clamp to use for different service pipes, issues regarding dissimilar metals, and the requirements for labelling and testing (amongst many other things). Sometimes it is safer to say nothing than give only a small fraction of the information required.

    All posters need to make a judgement about the advice they give and whether what they say might cause another person to do something unsafe or beyond their competence. Different people will make a different judgement on what they are willing to say.

    Risteard is within his rights not to provide information beyond pointing out that bonding and earthing are not the same thing.

    The OP is within their rights to choose to thank Risteard for that information, or not. :)
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
  • Risteard is without a doubt, the most helpful poster on this forum. (well, in his own mind).

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=75418167&postcount=11

    Risteard

    NowI don't know about the most helpful, but in my opinion, I would certainly say the most arrogant.
    Risteard, being helpful doesn't just mean being knowledgeable. It also means being able to pass that knowledge on to others in a way that they can or will accept, something that you with your superior, self righteous attitude simply can't manage.

    Risteard is nothing but a common as muck forum troll. He is rarely helpful, arrogant and is only really interested in correcting people and being pedantic. You only have to look through his posting history to get an idea of what he does here. I added him to my ignore list years ago, I recommend others do the same. Ignore trolls and they go away.
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