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KNIGHT2000
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Hi everyone
I have read the Newbie thread and in need of some advice on how to deal with this if possible in anyway.
A passenger in the car have medical issues but not classified as disabled for blue badge purposes and the vehicle was parked straddling 1.5 bays so passenger door can be fully opened. A ticket was issued from a private firm who possibly were once banned by BPA but I guess now they are an active member as the BPA website displays the company as a current member in their listings. The parking firm has issued a Parking Charge Notice (Windscreen applied) and seeks a charge of £100 or £60 if settled within 14 days.
Note: The event occurred at a free parking retail park during the dark and the car park had loads of empty spaces throughout its entirety.
Is there a way to successfully challenge this unscrupulous charge or not?
I have read the Newbie thread and in need of some advice on how to deal with this if possible in anyway.
A passenger in the car have medical issues but not classified as disabled for blue badge purposes and the vehicle was parked straddling 1.5 bays so passenger door can be fully opened. A ticket was issued from a private firm who possibly were once banned by BPA but I guess now they are an active member as the BPA website displays the company as a current member in their listings. The parking firm has issued a Parking Charge Notice (Windscreen applied) and seeks a charge of £100 or £60 if settled within 14 days.
Note: The event occurred at a free parking retail park during the dark and the car park had loads of empty spaces throughout its entirety.
Is there a way to successfully challenge this unscrupulous charge or not?
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Who is the parking company?0
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UKPC - UK Parking Control Ltd0
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Follow the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #1, sending the already written blue text template initial appeal around day 26. Do not add anything about ‘what happened’, it is irrelevant and will not cause the PPC to cancel or, eventually, a POPLA appeal to succeed.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
What's wrong with following the advice you have been given in the newbies thread?0
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UKPC are fraudsters, read this
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html.
If the car park had a lot of empty spaces, why was the car not properly parked? Was it unlit? Were the lines faded?
The stickies tellsyou how to fight these scammers, but to make life more difficult for them, get your M|P involved.
Complain to your MP. On 18th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these private parking companies. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, and persistent offenders denied access. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers.
Until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted
Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
Thank you all. FisherJim, the Newbies thread is great but as a Newbie I was unsure if that covered parking outside the marked bay. As stated it was dark and the vehicle had a non blue badge passenger with medical issues needing the passenger door to be fully opened to aid the individual to get out the vehicle. The driver I assume didn't think it would be an issue as there were loads of empty spaces throughout the entirety of the car park.0
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The driver I assume didn't think it would be an issue as there were loads of empty spaces throughout the entirety of the car park.
You are not dealing with John Lewis here, but some of the worst scammers in the country. Why did the driver park in a manner as to breach a contract to which they agreed to be bound?You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0 -
D_P_Dance
The car park notice was not within driver view but was on a post above the standing height of the driver and the font size of the marked bay issue was in much smaller print than the majority of the sign. The sign itself was a couple feet or so above the height of the driver PLUS the light which stood approximately a further 3 feet or so above the sign was NOT working at the time of the alleged contravention.0 -
None of it matters, the NEWBIES thread covers all windscreen PCNs. Easy to appeal.
Next time, don't leave a car straddling two bays, it is so selfish and asking for trouble too. After getting the passenger out, surely the driver could have courteously re-parked within the bay, and then on return, reversed the car out to let the passenger in?PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
REMEMBER ONE IMPORTANT RULE.....
they can only INVOICE (its not a charge or penalty) the person who parked the car.... not the registered keeper.....
Simply notify them that you did not park the car in the car park and that you are not legally obliged to give the persons name of whom parked the car.
They can not chase or force the invoice charge on you if they can not prove you parked the car0
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