National Insurance help

MichelleUK

Jami74 wrote: »

Yes, yes and yes Actually it's the same employee number with -1, -2, -3 after it.
A zero hour weekly.
A zero hour (says weekly but payroll says monthly) on a higher payscale. Was only meant to be for December work but it got confusing and I'm still waiting for some of it.
Third job is new substantive position.

To try and see what has happened, sort your payslips into a separate pile for each of the three employee numbers and then sort each pile in to week/month number order.

Does the NI charged in the period build up the 'year to date' NI figures correctly for each employee number or does it appear to have been adjusted?

In your situation, an employer is supposed to aggregate your pay to calculate the correct NI BUT they can be excused from this if it is not practicable:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/what-to-do-if-your-employee-has-more-than-1-job

Your NI deductions, per payslip, are not what you would expect for those amounts of gross pay each pay day, so it does look as if your payslips are being adjusted in some way. That would also make sense on why your payroll people say that your NI is monthly but shown on a weekly payslip.

chrisbur

Jami74 wrote: »

Yes, yes and yes Actually it's the same employee number with -1, -2, -3 after it.
A zero hour weekly.
A zero hour (says weekly but payroll says monthly) on a higher payscale. Was only meant to be for December work but it got confusing and I'm still waiting for some of it.
Third job is new substantive position.



During the same time period of those previous two monthly payslips I also recieved 4 weekly payslips. For two of them I had not worked/submitted any hours so there was no pay or deductions but a small tax refund on both. The other two look like this:

Total Pay = £ 143.36

PAYE = £26.20 Refund (1354M CUMU)
Pension 9.3% = £13.33
NI = £0
Student loan = £0

NET = £ 156.23

Editing to add: I'm not worried about the tax, I've paid roughly the right amount over the year.

Getting a bit confusing here so to check what is happening; for the payment of 1464.15 did you also receive in the same tax period payments for 2120.70 and two lots of 143.36

Jami74

chrisbur wrote: »

Getting a bit confusing here so to check what is happening; for the payment of 1464.15 did you also receive in the same tax period payments for 2120.70 and two lots of 143.36

Yes.

So I'm guessing then from that question that NI isn't worked out per payslip but per pay period?

In fact, if that is the case then it looks like I probably haven't overpaid NI for that month.

chrisbur

Jami74 wrote: »

Yes.

So I'm guessing then from that question that NI isn't worked out per payslip but per pay period?

In fact, if that is the case then it looks like I probably haven't overpaid NI for that month.

Yes in your case NI is worked out per pay period not per payslip.
The rule is that NI is worked out per pay period per employer if the employers are different and are not connected in any way; if they are the same or connected then it is added together per pay period; unless that cannot be done then it goes back to separately per pay period. From details so far it appears that your employer is doing it by adding together per pay period just want to establish that their calculation is correct.

There is also the point that some wages you say were paid at the wrong time so possibly they may have been worked out at the time they were paid not the time they were due to be paid, Details in my poet number 9. In this case the sum of payments would need to be done for the pay period payment was due not when it was paid so details would be needed here also.

Jami74

chrisbur wrote: »

Yes in your case NI is worked out per pay period not per payslip.

Thank-you for explaining it all so clearly. I like to understand how things work and it will save me hassling them and looking like an idiot. Going forward I'll lose the zero hour contracts and just keep the substantive role, which will make everything easier and more clear.