Moneyexpert.com

Kevicho

moneyexpert.com versus money"saving"expert.com

Try typing in "money expert" into google, granted this site is 2nd! but still, someone sees a show, doesnt pay much attention (then i suppose people wil lsay they deserve it) and then deal with this company.

Big corporations are involved in this all the time with domain names, so its not an uncommon issue.

climbgirl

Kevicho wrote: »

moneyexpert.com versus money"saving"expert.com

Try typing in "money expert" into google, granted this site is 2nd! but still, someone sees a show, doesnt pay much attention (then i suppose people wil lsay they deserve it) and then deal with this company.

Big corporations are involved in this all the time with domain names, so its not an uncommon issue.

Yes I know what you're saying and I think the practice is pretty horrible. But I don't think there's enough proof that they've broken copyright law. Their intention was possibly exactly as you describe but you have to actually have proof rather than just a hunch. Here's the wording from the copyright law that I think is most relevant:

"The work should be substantially similar in design, structure or content, to the degree that it can be said that the work was copied or adapted from your original, rather than simply a similar idea or concept."

I think you'd have a very hard time proving that the words "money" and "expert" used together were a direct copy rather than a similar idea or concept. Which is what you have to prove. They've very commonly used words.

tyllwyd

I'd have thought that 'moneysavingexpert' and 'moneyexpert' are too different to be able to complain about.

Did you see Martin's blog about complaints about him using the phrase 'only professional' money saving expert?
http://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/2006/02/09/am-i-the-only-money-saving-expert-in-the-village/

TonyBoy_2

moneyexpert.com have been trading for many years now and do a similar thing to say moneysupermarket.com and uswitch

The branding is totally different and it is not positioned as affiliated with this site, so whats with the massive over reaction?

How is this in any way "disgusting?"

Lord_Lardington

I went to Kwiksave today, I was horrified that they refused to fit me a new exhaust. Then, and only then, did I realise it wasn't "KwikFit" after all.

I was horrified!!! How are they allowed to have a slightly similar name to the well known purveyors of shocks and exhausts?

rayday2

Kevicho wrote: »

Below are details of a credit agency, by the looksof it, who are using a similar name to this website and who are maybe getting people looking for geniune help from this site, they type in that address by mistake, and these guys make a profit on this.

I think this should be investigated

Details of company below (i did note the 1998 original registration date)

Domain Name: MONEYEXPERT.COM

Registrant [22566]:
MoneyExpert Limited
The Parks, Lodge Lane
Unit 6
Newton le Willows
Merseyside
WA12 0JQ
UK


Administrative Contact [22566]:
Alex O'Shaughnessy [EMAIL="alex@moneyexpert.com"]alex@moneyexpert.com[/EMAIL]
MoneyExpert Limited
The Parks, Lodge Lane
Unit 6
Newton le Willows
Merseyside
WA12 0JQ
UK
Phone: +1.1942710910
Fax: +1.1942714871


Billing Contact [22566]:
Alex O'Shaughnessy [EMAIL="alex@moneyexpert.com"]alex@moneyexpert.com[/EMAIL]
MoneyExpert Limited
The Parks, Lodge Lane
Unit 6
Newton le Willows
Merseyside
WA12 0JQ
UK
Phone: +1.1942710910
Fax: +1.1942714871


Technical Contact [22566]:
Alex O'Shaughnessy [EMAIL="alex@moneyexpert.com"]alex@moneyexpert.com[/EMAIL]
MoneyExpert Limited
The Parks, Lodge Lane
Unit 6
Newton le Willows
Merseyside
WA12 0JQ
UK
Phone: +1.1942710910
Fax: +1.1942714871


Domain servers in listed order:

NS.RACKSPACE.COM
NS2.RACKSPACE.COM

Record created on: 1998-04-21 00:00:00.0
Database last updated on: 2007-05-10 11:01:38.27
Domain Expires on: 2008-04-20 00:00:00.0

Very good research but I think in your argument that makes Martin the one who should be stopped, if moneyexpert has infringed copywrite off moneysavingexpert but moneyexpert was going first does that mean Martin is guilty :eek:

Same evidence supplied by Kevicho:

Domain Name.......... moneysavingexpert.com
Creation Date........ 2002-06-11
Registration Date.... 2002-06-11
Expiry Date.......... 2015-06-11
Organisation Name.... Martin
Organisation Address. via. Tesciuba Ltd,
Organisation Address. 72 Cavendish Road
Organisation Address. Salford
Organisation Address. M7 4WA
Organisation Address. Manchester
Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK)

Admin Name........... Martin Lewis
Admin Address........ via. Tesciuba Ltd,
Admin Address........ 72 Cavendish Road
Admin Address........ Salford
Admin Address........ M7 4WA
Admin Address........ Manchester
Admin Address........ GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Admin Email.......... webmanager@moneysavingexpert.com
Admin Phone.......... -
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ UKServers Hostmaster
Tech Address......... PO Box 34
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Merriott
Tech Address......... TA16 5YZ
Tech Address......... Somerset
Tech Address......... GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Tech Email........... hostmaster@ukservers.net
Tech Phone........... +44.8717177353
Tech Fax............. +44.8700940342
Name Server.......... new-ns2.thebunker.net
Name Server.......... ns3.thebunker.net

Also Martin in his own words talks about the year of 2000 starting Moneysavingexpert in its early infancy!

TonyBoy_2

Lord_Lardington wrote: »

I went to Kwiksave today, I was horrified that they refused to fit me a new exhaust. Then, and only then, did I realise it wasn't "KwikFit" after all.

I was horrified!!! How are they allowed to have a slightly similar name to the well known purveyors of shocks and exhausts?

Thank you, there's a really odd sense of people trying to somehow ingratiate themselves with Martin so maybe he will be their mate, or something going on here.

ITS A DISGRACE!!!!!


WE HAVE TO DEFEND MARTIN!!!



and so on

rayday2

But no one has done a wrong against Martin - that site has been running 4 years longer than this one!

Lord_Lardington

TonyBoy wrote: »

Thank you, there's a really odd sense of people trying to somehow ingratiate themselves with Martin so maybe he will be their mate, or something going on here. And in what way does my post do that? Not that your sentence makes a great deal of sense to be honest.

ITS A DISGRACE!!!!! What is?


WE HAVE TO DEFEND MARTIN!!! As Rayday2 has already said, against what?


and so on

You seem to be infurated about something but it's hard to tell what.