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Deed of Variation for error in lease

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  • Tom99
    Tom99 Posts: 5,371 Forumite
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    initial rent = £100 Initial Rent = £200
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Capitalisation is really expensive, clearly.
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,200 Forumite
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    Jigglebiz wrote: »
    I see. So do you think there is not in fact an error in the lease at all?

    No - there's no error along the lines you describe.

    But see posts #19 to #23. The may be an argument about whether the 'Initial Rent' of £200 starts in year 25 or year 30.
  • Jigglebiz
    Jigglebiz Posts: 162 Forumite
    It appears the Rent = £100, until the Review Date
    The Initial Rent = £200

    Is the buyers solicitor just not reading this properly? <desperate crossing of fingers>
    Total debt outstanding: Jan18 -£1813 / Feb18 -£1649 / Mar18 -£1278 / Apr18 -£999 / May18 -£632 / June18 -£316 / July18 £0
    House Buy/Sell Fund: Jan18 £0 / Feb18 £184 / Mar18 £568 / Apr18 £936 / May18 £956 / June18 £1538 / Jul18 £2233 / Aug18 £2719
  • Tom99
    Tom99 Posts: 5,371 Forumite
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    Jigglebiz wrote: »
    It appears the Rent = £100, until the Review Date
    The Initial Rent = £200
    Is the buyers solicitor just not reading this properly? <desperate crossing of fingers>
    1.5 should have said:

    1.5 'Review Date' means the First Review Date and each fifth anniversary of the First Review Date
  • Jigglebiz
    Jigglebiz Posts: 162 Forumite
    What should I be saying to my solicitor to break the deadlock?

    He has repeated that the issue in the lease is that there is reference to the initial rent being £100 and a seperate reference to it being £200
    He also says that as the lease has a clause which provides that the rent may increase over time it is not unusual that the ground rent at present is higher than the amount referred to in the lease
    Total debt outstanding: Jan18 -£1813 / Feb18 -£1649 / Mar18 -£1278 / Apr18 -£999 / May18 -£632 / June18 -£316 / July18 £0
    House Buy/Sell Fund: Jan18 £0 / Feb18 £184 / Mar18 £568 / Apr18 £936 / May18 £956 / June18 £1538 / Jul18 £2233 / Aug18 £2719
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Jigglebiz wrote: »
    What should I be saying to my solicitor to break the deadlock?
    "Here's the £1,700. Get the DoV underway."
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    How much money is in dispute? If the freeholder were o claim the higher figure, how muc might the leaseholder have to stump up?


    £100? Plus some interest/back rent?


    So either
    * offer todrop the asking price by, say, £200, so the buyer is covered for any potential future claim, or
    * take out an indemnity insurance (£100- £150?) to pay out if the freeholder claims in future



    But to pay £1000+ to vary the Lease? Pointless!


    As for the £75 paid every 6 months, again, the leaseholder couldquery this when the next rent demand is received. No big deal.
  • Jigglebiz
    Jigglebiz Posts: 162 Forumite
    The buyers sol insists on the DOV because the issue will come up again when the property is sold. My sol agrees this is pointless but they have made it clear that is a condition of their proceeding. According to my sol it is definitely a lack of clarity and although freeholder has clarified how it should be read this isn’t enough to satisfy buyers sol.
    Total debt outstanding: Jan18 -£1813 / Feb18 -£1649 / Mar18 -£1278 / Apr18 -£999 / May18 -£632 / June18 -£316 / July18 £0
    House Buy/Sell Fund: Jan18 £0 / Feb18 £184 / Mar18 £568 / Apr18 £936 / May18 £956 / June18 £1538 / Jul18 £2233 / Aug18 £2719
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »
    * take out an indemnity insurance (£100- £150?) to pay out if the freeholder claims in future
    Insurance isn't going to be an option now they've flagged up to the freeholder exactly what the problem is.
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