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He would still have had a BC in these cases.
He would, but his birth name and parents names would not be known to the OP and so her chances of finding it would be tiny!
I needed a copy of my birth certificate a few years ago but when I went to order it the GRO could not trace it. Which is how I discovered aged 46 that I was adopted and that the name I’d grown up with bore no relationship to the name my birth was registered in - no part of the birth name had been kept. In OP’s circumstances, no one would have been able to trace my original birth certificate and relate it to me0 -
His birth certificate may well not have the name of his father on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Register_Office_for_England_and_Wales#BirthsBut a banker, engaged at enormous expense,Had the whole of their cash in his care.
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He would, but his birth name and parents names would not be known to the OP and so her chances of finding it would be tiny!
I needed a copy of my birth certificate a few years ago but when I went to order it the GRO could not trace it. Which is how I discovered aged 46 that I was adopted and that the name I’d grown up with bore no relationship to the name my birth was registered in - no part of the birth name had been kept. In OP’s circumstances, no one would have been able to trace my original birth certificate and relate it to me
Adoptees are issued with an amended BC in their new name.
They can get a copy of their original BC through several methods -
https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records0 -
It depends on when you were adopted though and it’s not necessarily as easy as you suggest to find the birth certificate.
I was adopted prior to 1975 and so I had to have mandatory counselling before I was told my original birth name to enable me to order my birth certificate. And I only have an adoption certificate not an amended birth certificate in the new name though the distinction isn’t obvious on the face.
Google tells me that the only circumstances in which an amended birth certificate is issued is where a birth is legitimised by the subsequent marriage of the birth parents. Adoptees are not otherwise issued with a new birth certificate in the new name - it’s always just the adoption certificate which stands in its place but as it doesn’t say on its face that it is an adoption certificate, that may explain the confusion.0 -
It depends on when you were adopted though and it’s not necessarily as easy as you suggest to find the birth certificate.
I was adopted prior to 1975 and so I had to have mandatory counselling before I was told my original birth name to enable me to order my birth certificate. And I only have an adoption certificate not an amended birth certificate in the new name though the distinction isn’t obvious on the face.
Google tells me that the only circumstances in which an amended birth certificate is issued is where a birth is legitimised by the subsequent marriage of the birth parents. Adoptees are not otherwise issued with a new birth certificate in the new name - it’s always just the adoption certificate which stands in its place but as it doesn’t say on its face that it is an adoption certificate, that may explain the confusion.
My husband was adopted prior to 1975 and had a completely different experience to you.
He has always known his birth name and has both an 'adoption' birth certificate and a 'normal' birth certificate for as long as he can remember.
OP. There is a possibility that your husband's Dad was never registered. Although, legally he should have been I have come across this before.0 -
Spider_In_The_Bath wrote: »My husband was adopted prior to 1975 and had a completely different experience to you.
He has always known his birth name and has both an 'adoption' birth certificate and a 'normal' birth certificate for as long as he can remember.
OP. There is a possibility that your husband's Dad was never registered. Although, legally he should have been I have come across this before.
My experience aligns with the info on the General Registry Office website however! Perhaps your husband was told his birth name by his adoptive parents or found out in another non-official way, but for those who don’t already know it the process is as I’ve described.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#Overseas
The certificate in his new name will be his adoption certificate - not a new birth certificate.0 -
My experience aligns with the info on the General Registry Office website however! Perhaps your husband was told his birth name by his adoptive parents or found out in another non-official way, but for those who don’t already know it the process is as I’ve described.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#Overseas
The certificate in his new name will be his adoption certificate - not a new birth certificate.
I am not saying that your experience is not correct - just that it was different for my husband.
He has two birth certificates both in his new name. He does not have anything in his old name at all.
One certificate shows the adoption details and the other is a normal birth certificate (looks exactly the same as mine) with no reference to being adopted. He can use this one if he does not want people to know he is adopted.
I am not sure if either of these is what you mean by an adoption certificate.0 -
And I only have an adoption certificate not an amended birth certificate in the new name though the distinction isn’t obvious on the face.
By 'amended', I didn't mean that the birth name was crossed out and the new name added to the same certificate - the original birth certificate is a legal document regarding the child at birth; the amended (names changed) adoption certificate is issued when the adoption goes through.0 -
My experience aligns with the info on the General Registry Office website however! Perhaps your husband was told his birth name by his adoptive parents or found out in another non-official way, but for those who don’t already know it the process is as I’ve described.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#Overseas
Where you born overseas?0
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