IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Fined for returning, yet didn't park

Hi Guys - thanks for all the information on here it's incredible. But I can't quite find something relating to my elderly parent's PCN from a private firm (SR Security Services) at a shopping centre in Didcot.

My parents parked at the car park which has 2 hours free parking. They were there about 30 minutes, and my mum stayed on whilst my dad drove home. My father returned to pick up my mum a couple of hours later, he didn't park, just collected her and drove out. The cameras picked him up as "returning within 3 hours" and have issued a PCN.
They have signs and I'm sure somewhere it says no return, plus all the parking charges over 2 hours, etc. but if they didn't actually park the second time round can that still apply?
Many thanks
Jo

Comments

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,286 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Hi Jo,

    What happened when you did the first thing in:

    NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST

    and complained on their behalf, to the Shopping Centre Management?
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,491 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    This is known as a double dip, you need to come down on the shopping centre like a ton of bricks
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • pogofish
    pogofish Posts: 10,853 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    JoG27 wrote: »
    Hi Guys - thanks for all the information on here it's incredible. But I can't quite find something relating to my elderly parent's PCN from a private firm (SR Security Services) at a shopping centre in Didcot.

    Newbies Sticky, Post 1 - section 1 2:2 covers your situation completely.
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,491 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Did any occupant of the vehicle have a disability that limits their mobility?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Read these and complain to your MP.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5550336/double-dip-parking-list-of-cases

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    The problem become so widespread that MPs agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. It has cleared Parliament and hopefully, this will become law shortly.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fifth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    How do the scammers prove it was the same person driving each time? After all, only a person can enter into a contract - a vehicle is an object and cannot wilfully contract to do anything.

    Secondly, if returning within 3 hours is not allowed, and the scammers can only create contractual obligations and can't apply penalties, how can someone contract to do that which is forbidden?

    As you can see - this situation is not new and IS covered by the FAQ. :)
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Secondly, if returning within 3 hours is not allowed, and the scammers can only create contractual obligations and can't apply penalties, how can someone contract to do that which is forbidden?

    I am not sure I follow.

    If parking is restricted to two hours, and you stay for three, then surely the same applies. The signs it virtually every car park in the land wouls appear to be forbidding.l
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.4K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.