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ES Parking Spinningfields, Manchester court win

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I opened a thread at the time which went through the process from ticket to court with ES Parking at the Spinningfields estate in Manchester. There is a good write up here which may be helpful: http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2017/01/es-parking-v-ms-q.html

I received a lot of help from those on these forums and I am very very grateful. It has now given me the ability to fight another one. I was just going to say that yes it is work, but these companies are getting more prevalent. Court was also not as scary as you may think and was dealt with quickly. If i had to do this again I would have picked a court much further away as this guy from ES said he would not have travelled to attend a court too far away. Obviously you would need to get to that court if you chose it!

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  • Umkomaas
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    ABowman wrote: »
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    I opened a thread at the time which went through the process from ticket to court with ES Parking at the Spinningfields estate in Manchester. There is a good write up here which may be helpful: http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2017/01/es-parking-v-ms-q.html

    I received a lot of help from those on these forums and I am very very grateful. It has now given me the ability to fight another one. I was just going to say that yes it is work, but these companies are getting more prevalent. Court was also not as scary as you may think and was dealt with quickly. If i had to do this again I would have picked a court much further away as this guy from ES said he would not have travelled to attend a court too far away. Obviously you would need to get to that court if you chose it!
    Well done on a win against this Johnny-come-lately, increasingly litigious, shower.

    I'm not sure how much say you have in the allocation of a court seriously away from your home address, I think the court will allocate your nearest unless there's a very good reason from you not to do so.

    Not having a claimant's representative in attendance risks a Judge putting the claimant's case for them. Seems from reading the hundreds of cases we've had going through the forum, that Judges are much sharper and savvy than the many (often woefully) underprepared and hapless PPC advocates.

    A strategy not without some potential risk I would suggest.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • ABowman
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    Umkomaas, yes agreed, I was able to select the court to attend and could have legitimately selected a court in East Anglia, but that could have been risky. I mentioned this to Brian Hargreaves who said he would not have travelled very far to attend court. I just wanted to say that court isn't really something to be feared.
  • Umkomaas
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    ABowman wrote: »
    Umkomaas, yes agreed, I was able to select the court to attend and could have legitimately selected a court in East Anglia, but that could have been risky. I mentioned this to Brian Hargreaves who said he would not have travelled very far to attend court. I just wanted to say that court isn't really something to be feared.

    BH is directly attached to ES Parking, rather than a freelance advocate.

    One of the 'Hargreaves Clan' (a descriptor penned by much missed, former regular 'Bazter' some years ago) and irrefutably linked then to the ignominiously booted-out member of the BPA, ANPR Ltd - inventors of the groundbreaking 'ANPR In A Box' and its attendant algy-o-rithums, developed by owd Trev in his garden shed! Capable of detecting not only parking contraventions, but shoplifters, terrorists and illegal immigrants.

    Now looking to acquire wooden poles long enough to position the cameras in the English Channel. :D
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • waamo
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    You know when Preston and the name Hargreaves cropped up it did make me wonder.

    It would be great if you could stick around and help other people with court claims. There is nothing like first hand experience
  • lot of interbreeding in preston , I suspect my ex boss (miyow) would have lent him some train fair
  • Hi,
    I am currently in a similar position to what you must have been at the beginning.
    I have just had charge through for ‘parked in no stopping area’ in spinningfields estate.
    The sign was very small, as I have checked on google maps, my brake lights were still on, I had stopped momentarily to work out where I was, and then continued.
    I have read the newbies thread, and lots of threads on ES parking and obviously you have disputed this previously at the same location and the same charge. I have never had any experience in a fine or disputing a fine before and was hoping for any advice at all as it is all very new and quite scary! But after reading all of these threads I really do not want to pay these cowboys.
    Any help would be really appreciated! Yes
  • Coupon-mad
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    I have read the newbies thread, and lots of threads on ES parking and obviously you have disputed this previously at the same location and the same charge.

    ... I really do not want to pay these cowboys.
    Good!

    Why not just read the current Spinningfields thread from this week rather than this old one? Practise searching the forum for that word.

    There is no appeal for IPC firms, but of course this scam is beatable in court, as the site is a con with fake (or Council?) double yellows and no signs that can be seen.

    Whoever runs this firm should be ashamed, but it seems no parking firms are.

    Come back and start a new thread, WHEN YOU GET A GLADSTONES LBC.
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