F1rst parking tickets

Bsms9e0r

Hi all,
I was given a windscreen parking charge notice from f1rst parking, for parking without a permit or daily pass. I then received another one two days later for parking in the same car park. I had only parked there for less than 20 minutes both times! I've been reading through a lot of forums trying to work out what to do next but I'm still unsure. As they're a member of the BPA, am I correct in thinking that I should wait until day 26 and then send in an appeal? but I'm unsure what to say in the appeal? Or should I just not respond?

Thank you in advance!

Redx

appeal as KEEPER on day 26, then hope they fail to send an NTK by day 56

use the blue text appeal as keeper, no blabbing about who was driving

they will probably refuse the appeal and issue a POPLA code

Umkomaas

Just over two weeks ago, I was given a windshield parking charge notice from f1rst parking, for parking at my university's car park without a permit or daily pass. I then received another one two days later for parking in the same car park.

Why, if you had a windscreen ticket two days earlier, did you do the same thing again?

I always remember my parents telling me, if you burn your hand in the fire, you don't stick it back in there again, because the effect will be exactly the same!

fisherjim

Bsms9e0r wrote: »

I’d gotten away with parking there everyday for 4 months! So I just hoped the first ticket was an anomaly but they must have finally started regularly checking!

Shakes head in disbelief!

The_Deep

They will now try to take you to the cleaners, park elsewhere.

Complain to your MP. This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem become so widespread that MPs agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Hopefully, this will become law by Easter .

Bsms9e0r

It also says this:
When assessing your appeal, First Parking may share your appeal information with our client. First Parking may also conduct a search with a credit bureau.
If you are not the driver at the time, please tell us who was driving. If you are unable to provide the drivers name and valid address and the amount remains outstanding after 28 days, the Creditor has the right to recover unpaid parking charges from the registered keeper as described under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012

Coupon-mad

windshield

Are you American? We don't have windshields. Can't stand Americanisms like that!

I've just missed the 14 day deadline to pay the cheaper fine

How does this matter, seeing as the NEWBIES thread tells you to ignore that 14 day bribe? And it's not a fine, and it's not 'cheap' unless you join us to get the 100% discount.

OF COURSE YOU DO NOT ADMIT TO BEING THE DRIVER!

There must be a way to appeal without ticking that box as they are not allowed to make an appeal conditional upon saying if you were driving or not. No-one else has posted that this is a problem with F1rst.

Try to see if you can get past it without ticking it, or does it in fact have a longer sentence like: 'I was not the driver or the PCN was issued wrongly' (which clearly is OK to tick and is not lying, due to the word 'OR').

Bsms9e0r wrote: »

It also says this:
When assessing your appeal, First Parking may share your appeal information with our client. First Parking may also conduct a search with a credit bureau.
If you are not the driver at the time, please tell us who was driving. If you are unable to provide the drivers name and valid address and the amount remains outstanding after 28 days, the Creditor has the right to recover unpaid parking charges from the registered keeper as described under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012

Whoopie do...! They might like to think that, but...

No they don't. Not if you appeal on day 26/27 and they forget to issue a NTK!

Bsms9e0r

It doesn’t allow you to submit the page without ticking yes or no and it says ‘I was driving the car’ and then the tick boxes. They must have recently changed it? I tried to submit the page without ticking, but it just kept coming up in red saying to tick yes or no.

The_Deep

Tick "no" and if it gets to court tell the judge, (but only if he asks), l that the choice was unlawful. There is no requirement to in law to say who was driving.

Another reason to complain to your MP.

Fruitcake

Bsms9e0r wrote: »

It doesn’t allow you to submit the page without ticking yes or no and it says ‘I was driving the car’ and then the tick boxes. They must have recently changed it? I tried to submit the page without ticking, but it just kept coming up in red saying to tick yes or no. In the end I went with no but the more I think about it the more I regret doing so.

You are dealing with scammers. Having no option to appeal as keeper is just part of their scamming technique.

The advice is never to reveal the driver's identity unless it is to the motorist's advantage, such as an own space residential case.

Your posts throughout this thread are littered with information about who was driving. Note that parking scammers monitor this forum and it would only need one small piece of information such as a date or precise time and the scammers can link a post to an individual, and therefore have proof of the driver's identity.
That's why posters are advised to refer only to The Driver and The Keeper on this site except in very specific circumstances.

You would be advised therefore to edit your posts.

Gazwillows311982

My car was parked on “cross-hatched area” today and issued with a £75 fine, £45 if paid within 14 days or £25 if paid within 24 hours.
This car park wasn’t a pay and display area. My car was parked in between 2 disabled parking spaces but not blocking anyone in.
3 other cars were giving a parking charge notice for parking on “landscaped area” close to me.
Where do I stand with this?
(Apologies that I’ve jumped on this thread - I couldn’t see where I could start my own thread)