Download speed differences on fibre broadband

neilmcl

tonygold wrote: »

i have checked my sky hub and as it is not a 'Q' hub i believe it only runs on the 2.4gHz band.

i have downloaded inSSider but it is double dutch to me. it shows loads of SSID's which i presume are neighbour's routers. all (inluding mine) show they are on channel 1, 6 or 11.
my signal dBm is -50. doesn't mean anything to me!!

Best ignore my other post then, or get yourself a new hub from ebay.

Dandytf

tonygold wrote: »

i have checked my sky hub and as it is not a 'Q' hub i believe it only runs on the 2.4gHz band.

i have downloaded inSSider but it is double dutch to me. it shows loads of SSID's which i presume are neighbour's routers. all (inluding mine) show they are on channel 1, 6 or 11.
my signal dBm is -50. doesn't mean anything to me!!

You can change your SSd to one of your choice if you arn't sure which is yours showing via SSider -as I have q I call mine fluid.
You'll possibly find 2.4ghz not quite as fast as 5ghz-what is the make and model of your router- e.g q hub I have is:-
Details help
Manufacturer Sky
Model ER110
Firmware Version 2.09.2448.R
DSL Firmware VersionA2pv6F039m1.d24m

Whilst I suspect you are using:-
The regular Sky Hub has four ethernet ports with transfer speeds of up to 100Mb. It's also got Wi-Fi up to 'wireless n' 802.11n standard - and overall you can connect up to 32 devices at once.

Which doesn't carry AC5ghz -one if the fastest standards.
The speeds you are getting maybe the best you can achieve from 2.4ghz, other than checking software of each device to ensure it's up-to date.
The later sky q hub with ac 5ghx requires Sky q to be installled.

Exemplar

We had this issue (albeit with the Q router).At the interface I was getting 75MB, however 3 metres away in the same room/ line of sight I was getting 20MB. I resolved by ditching their router and getting a better one plus a Tenda mesh system. I got the Sky username/ password by using Wireshark (loads of Youtube videos). We are now with BT though.

slinga

I get about 200Mbps but do I need it???


From what I can observe the download speed you actually get is dependent on what the sites that you use actually output.


I doubt if on any big download that I'll get 2Mbps and the MSE site will provide a lot less than that.


For me I liken it to a garden hose sending water through a 1000 mm dia pipe.


I dunno what a high download/upload speed gives you if gaming or using a torrent.


I'd be interested to know what others think.

Gloomendoom

As above. At work, I have over a 1000 down and up.

Some sites still take ages to load.

arciere

I haven'r read all the replies so I apologies if this has been said already.
Basically, the main differences between 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz networks are:
a) Range:2.4 can penetrate obstacles much better than 5 Ghz (therefore 5Ghz networks have normally a shorter range);
b) Channels and radio noise: lots of devices transmit or emit radio waves in the 2.4Ghz band (WiFi, microwave ovens, cordless phones, etc.), so in a congested area 5 Ghz gives more 'free space'

That being said, what REALLY influence speeds are antennas (in a MIMO configuration) and protocol used.
In simple terms, normally a radio antenna (i.e. the WiFi card on your computer, or the access point, or the router) is able to keep one radio stream at a time. Some devices have more than one antenna (for example, a 3:3 MIMO device can have 3 simultaneous streams).
This doubles (or triples) the effective amount of data that can be transferred to/from a device, but obviously both devices (access point and tablet, for example) need to have the same number of antennas. This is why a wireless access point that is advertised as being 1200Mbps, can only achieve high speeds if also the receiving device has more than one antenna.

TLDR: WiFi speeds depend mainly on how many antennas your devices have and what protocol is used.

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slinga wrote: »

I get about 200Mbps but do I need it???

From what I can observe the download speed you actually get is dependent on what the sites that you use actually output.

I doubt if on any big download that I'll get 2Mbps and the MSE site will provide a lot less than that.

For me I liken it to a garden hose sending water through a 1000 mm dia pipe.

I dunno what a high download/upload speed gives you if gaming or using a torrent.

I'd be interested to know what others think.

Yep, we have 94 DL & 93 UL Virgin here at work and I can browse as quickly if not even smoother on my 37 DL & 10 UL fibre at home. Unless you've got very low DL speeds then it'll usually be the other end that slows it down.

Gaming requires sufficient bandwidth but more importantly a low ping, at work it's a ridiculous 3ms, at home 24ms which is fine for anything.

neilmcl

Dandytf wrote: »

The later sky q hub with ac 5ghx requires Sky q to be installled.

No it doesn't. Currently running one myself without Sky Q.

searchlight123

I'm more interested in whether the higher download speeds (58mbps over 32mbps) will give me better live streaming really or will these differences in speed result in virtually no performance difference?

DoaM

It depends on where you're streaming from. For a single source (stream) then you'll likely see no difference at all between 32 and 58 meg. The difference will become more apparent as you increase the number of concurrent streams (e.g. BT sports, Netflix, YouTube all running in parallel to different devices).