Landowner trying to force me to put up fence

diggingdude

pinkshoes wrote: »

Cows in your garden = free steak????

Beat me to it, another vote for eating the cows once on your land

Beenie

it was razor wire/barb -definitely not barbed wire.

The operatives who did it were employees of the new landowner and just wrapped the razor barb round the rails. They also put up a fence elsewhere with barbed wire.

We didn't report it to anyone as we didn't know it was an offence. Over the years, people unknown to us <cough> have snipped the razor barb away at ground level to give the animals a chance.

Davesnave

diggingdude wrote: »

Beat me to it, another vote for eating the cows once on your land

There are a few processes to go through before they'd look remotely edible, and they'd likely not cooperate. They are quite strong y'know!

Bullfighting isn't for everyone. If you must, work up to it gradually, like the potential lion tamer on Monty Python, via banking, or insurance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqQlCOmXuHM

paddy's_mum

GDB2222 wrote: »

You could plant one of the many plants that are poisonous to cattle.

Now why would any sane person deliberately harm a dumb animal which has no choice whatever in where it finds itself?

(Presumably then it would be quite acceptable for me to electrocute cats that wander across my garden or set landmines to punish the little dog that occasionally cocks his leg against my gatepost.)

GDB2222

paddy's_mum wrote: »

Now why would any sane person deliberately harm a dumb animal which has no choice whatever in where it finds itself?

(Presumably then it would be quite acceptable for me to electrocute cats that wander across my garden or set landmines to punish the little dog that occasionally cocks his leg against my gatepost.)

The idea is that you tell the farmer about the poisonous plants so as to give him an incentive to erect stock proof fencing. I thought that was completely obvious, but apparently not...

Davesnave

GDB2222 wrote: »

The idea is that you tell the farmer about the poisonous plants so as to give him an incentive to erect stock proof fencing. I thought that was completely obvious, but apparently not...

People probably have plants poisonous to ruminants in their gardens anyway, but that doesn't mean they will eat them.

For example, the sheep here have free access to foxgloves. Sheep are supposed to be stupid, but they are not that daft!

The wider point is that threatening may inflame the situation. While none of us thinks the farmer is being reasonable, the wider objective is to maintain a reasonably civil relationship to safeguard the view. Sometimes it's better to accept a small inconvenience to ward-off the possibility of a larger one.

A few years ago two idiots reported the thatcher who had branched-out from storage to manufacturing cob bricks in his yard behind our land. The council closed this operation down, even though those directly affected wrote letters in favour of the small-scale operation. It was harming no one and there was no room for expansion. The next thing that happened was the arrival of two rusted out cars which sat directly in the site line of the idiots' sun terrace. Nothing they could do about that!

paddy's_mum

Davesnave wrote: »

the arrival of two rusted out cars which sat directly in the site line of the idiots' sun terrace

Someone I know had problems with the new townie neighbours who wanted their view across his 100 year old smallholding to be "lovely countryside" not rare breed pigs, poultry and vegetables.

He went so far as buying a clapped out combined harvester for £60 to park on the land until he found the time to work on it...ie sometime never!

The neighbours saw sense, backed off, the machine was never delivered and peace was restored.

Belligerence can be a two edged sword.

EachPenny

xylophone wrote: »

My suburban freehold house comes with a requirement to erect and maintain a fence to separate the end of my garden from the garden on the other side of it.

Same for me.

SmashedAvacado wrote: »

and you will have had legal advice that this obligation would have been binding against the original buyer of the property as a matter of contract law but not binding on successors in title. That is of course if your solicitor knew the law.

I think my solicitor knew the law... unless the certificates on the wall in their office were fake. :undecided

Moreover, my mortgage company's solicitors also appeared to know the law as (unprompted by mine) they wrote a nice letter to my solicitor requiring me to sign an undertaking to replace a missing fence within 6 months of completion.

davidmcn wrote: »

Admittedly it's probably not so common for a neighbour suddenly to notice that the condition has been long-ignored.

Possibly the farmer - as a recent purchaser of the land - and having more interest in the security of the boundaries than the average house-dweller, asked the specific question of their solicitor at the time of purchase?

Also, it is fairly common for rural houses to be built on land which was originally part of the field (or farm) that the house now adjoins, and farmers being canny folk will usually pass an enduring legal responsibility to maintain a boundary fence to the person buying the land for development.

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I have had exactly this when I purchased some land next to a farmers who had cows in his field. Every morning they would be in my copse or stuck in a ditch.


He stormed over and told me to fence off my plot so that his cows stay in his field. He was a bully. However I quote Defra to him and the requirement for people who have stock needing to fence within a metre of their boundary to keep their own animals from wandering.


The fence never went up however the cows were moved to another field away from me and he sold the farm 6months later.

EachPenny

BBH123 wrote: »

He stormed over and told me to fence off my plot so that his cows stay in his field. He was a bully. However I quote Defra to him and the requirement for people who have stock needing to fence within a metre of their boundary to keep their own animals from wandering.

Do you have a link to that?

It would be very helpful to the OP, if it is law and not just guidance.