RTB: Housing Question

Brown_Bear

SnooksNJ wrote: »

It's not an injustice to transfer every single home in New England to someone worse off?
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It may not be 'just' - but it's happened before and it will happen again.
Not always in Zimbabwe or Cyprus style.
Often more subtle ways. For example, RTB for private tenants.

Right now, a lot of people in the UK are obsessing about Brexit.
Sooner or later, people will get bored of Brexit - which is a distraction for many disgruntled people. Then other things may change - perhaps including wealth / property redistribution etc.

It may not happen in my lifetime - but sooner or later something will change.
After all, who foresaw the Berlin wall falling etc in 1989?

Brown_Bear

SnooksNJ wrote: »

It's not an injustice to transfer every single home in New England to someone worse off?
Brown Bear should be Elizabeth Warren's running mate if she gets the nomination.

It's interesting you mention the USA.

Up until recently the main thing preventing some kind of 'Hard Left' govt in the UK has been the fact that the USA govt would not allow it. The UK is essentially a 'puppet state' of the USA - in the same was Czechoslavakia was a puppet state of the USSR.

But if the USA govt becomes more socialist - it may allow the UK to also become more socialist. (In the same way that Czechoslavakia was only able to end communism once the USSR also did).

In the UK - it would need the general public to lose their obsession with immigration and the EU etc. I would estimate about 10 years from now.

Comms69

Brown_Bear wrote: »

It's interesting you mention the USA.

Up until recently the main thing preventing some kind of 'Hard Left' govt in the UK has been the fact that the USA govt would not allow it. The UK is essentially a 'puppet state' of the USA - in the same was Czechoslavakia was a puppet state of the USSR.

But if the USA govt becomes more socialist - it may allow the UK to also become more socialist. (In the same way that Czechoslavakia was only able to end communism once the USSR also did).

In the UK - it would need the general public to lose their obsession with immigration and the EU etc. I would estimate about 10 years from now.

Sorry that's just not true.


The thing preventing a hard left govt is the fact that most sensible people understand that extreme leftist ideas are at best dangerous and at worst catastrophic.


There is nothing positive about the extreme left (just like the extreme right)

Blondetotty

Brown_Bear wrote: »

The UK is essentially a 'puppet state' of the USA - in the same was Czechoslavakia was a puppet state of the USSR.
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I just spat my brew out reading that. Typical American arrogance

SnooksNJ

Brown_Bear wrote: »

It's interesting you mention the USA.

Up until recently the main thing preventing some kind of 'Hard Left' govt in the UK has been the fact that the USA govt would not allow it. The UK is essentially a 'puppet state' of the USA - in the same was Czechoslavakia was a puppet state of the USSR.

But if the USA govt becomes more socialist - it may allow the UK to also become more socialist. (In the same way that Czechoslavakia was only able to end communism once the USSR also did).

In the UK - it would need the general public to lose their obsession with immigration and the EU etc. I would estimate about 10 years from now.

Do these US politicians who prevented the UK becoming too far left have names?

Brown_Bear

Blondetotty wrote: »

I just spat my brew out reading that. Typical American arrogance

I'm British, not American.
The UK is a puppet state - proved by the Iraq war etc.

Brown_Bear

SnooksNJ wrote: »

Do these US politicians who prevented the UK becoming too far left have names?

Yes - the names of all the US presidents etc.

The US has intervened (overtly and covertly) in numerous countries - to back their preferred side.

Do you really think the USA govt would tolerate a socialist / far left UK?

Brown_Bear

Comms69 wrote: »

The thing preventing a hard left govt is the fact that most sensible people understand that extreme leftist ideas are at best dangerous and at worst catastrophic.

The electoral system would be the first hurdle. But the second would be the USA.

But the two are mixed together really, as the USA would obviously fund the soft power / political influence to prevent it from getting started.


That's probably where the USSR failed with the CSSR - they didn't see the reformist politics coming soon enough to nip it in the bud early on. Hence the Prague Spring dramas etc.

I think the Chinese have learnt from this (and T. Square etc). By the time the people are out demonstrating it's gone too far.

Blondetotty

Brown_Bear wrote: »

I'm British, not American.

How unfortunate

SnooksNJ

Brown_Bear wrote: »

Yes - the names of all the US presidents etc.

The US has intervened (overtly and covertly) in numerous countries - to back their preferred side.

Do you really think the USA govt would tolerate a socialist / far left UK?

What would the British do to defend themselves against a series of tweets by President Trump that socialism is a big hot mess and this is what his political opponents want for the US.