Key fobs

NeilCr

Umkomaas wrote: »

I don't know the technicalities of key fobs, but maybe to prevent use after a resident leaves the estate, a software update to either omit that particular fob, or one to reset all others to a new coding. Surely that can't be beyond the wit of man in this day and age?

The trouble is, I guess, keeping track of who leaves and when. We've got a number of tenants here, for example, and there is quite a lot of coming and going. Our MA only knows the owners not the tenants.

nigelbb

Even though it's key fob entry the problem is that while there is a space for each flat then four spaces for visitors this is all on grass so it's not really possible to mark the spaces or introduce posts.

If the car park were surfaced then you could have numbered spaces for each flat & issue one permit per flat plus one visitors permit. Visitors spaces to be on a first come basis. A resident without a vehicle could come to some arrangement with a resident who has two vehicles to use their permit.

Finally self-ticketing with each resident registering their vehicle(s) for a whitelist so those vehicles never get ticketed.

NeilCr

Guys_Dad wrote: »

In olden days, ladies used to swallow tapeworms to help them stay slim. It may have worked, but the side effects outweighed the supposed cure.

There is a moral there.

There is. But, of course, there is still a problem which needs dealing with. And, in this case, fobs aren't the cure.

It's one of these things, though, that when you are in it advice about what may happen in the future doesn't really help. As I say it was all fine when I was there. I did come back once, though, to find another resident had parked in my spot. I went and knocked on her door. Turned out someone had parked in her space so she parked in mine. In fact it transpired there were about six people who had done the same thing

I was okay as I parked in one of the visitors bays and it all got sorted. But I'd have been pretty unhappy if it was a regular occurrence - especially, if I had ended up parking off site (probably a fair way away). Someone telling me that the obvious quickest solution (parking control) shouldn't happen because of something that might happen in the future may not have gone down very well!

I am with BeamerGuy - self ticketing if it continues

NeilCr

nigelbb wrote: »

Even though it's key fob entry the problem is that while there is a space for each flat then four spaces for visitors this is all on grass so it's not really possible to mark the spaces or introduce posts.

If the car park were surfaced then you could have numbered spaces for each flat & issue one permit per flat plus one visitors permit. Visitors spaces to be on a first come basis. A resident without a vehicle could come to some arrangement with a resident who has two vehicles to use their permit.

Finally self-ticketing with each resident registering their vehicle(s) for a whitelist so those vehicles never get ticketed.

Thank you.

I was, actually, trying to remember how the bays were marked. Old and my memory is going! And it was over 11 years ago when I lived there. I think there were numbers in front of the bays on the road so they were identified in some way.

Umkomaas

I am with BeamerGuy - self ticketing if it continues

It would need to be heavily caveated around whitelists, automatic (and free) cancellation of any tickets as and when required by the MC, no tail wagging of the dog, and a contract cancellation clause of very short duration. Trouble is then whether any PPC is going to be interested in just picking up the odd crumb or two from that arrangement?

The other alternative is that the estate joins the BPA as an AOS Operator in their own right (a bit like some Universities) and manage the whole shooting match. Clearly there would be a cost and residents would need to consider whether an extra sum added to annual running charges to avoid the potential pitfalls of a rampant 3rd party PPC is worth the investment. Worth investigating?

Residential parking issues have become much more pernicious than run of the mill overstays, imho, so avoiding the implantation of a free-ranging PPC is imperative. But even with self ticketing we still see numerous difficult cases emerging. There again, there might be very good examples of well managed and controlled self ticketing operations - but we're unlikely to ever see those on the forum.

NeilCr

Umkomaas wrote: »

It would need to be heavily caveated around whitelists, automatic (and free) cancellation of any tickets as and when required by the MC, no tail wagging of the dog, and a contract cancellation clause of very short duration. Trouble is then whether any PPC is going to be interested in just picking up the odd crumb or two from that arrangement?

The other alternative is that the estate joins the BPA as an AOS Operator in their own right (a bit like some Universities) and manage the whole shooting match. Clearly there would be a cost and residents would need to consider whether an extra sum added to annual running charges to avoid the potential pitfalls of a rampant 3rd party PPC is worth the investment. Worth investigating?

Residential parking issues have become much more pernicious than run of the mill overstays, imho, so avoiding the implantation of a free-ranging PPC is imperative. But even with self ticketing we still see numerous difficult cases emerging. There again, there might be very good examples of well managed and controlled self ticketing operations - but we're unlikely to ever see those on the forum.

Thanks again.

I appreciate your input - and that of the other contributors.

In this situation I rather suspect that there would be little problem in getting the weight of numbers needed. And, yes, guys I know there is a right way to do this!

One MA I had a long conversation with a while back when I became a director told me that 95% of the issues on estates that she had to deal with were about three things. Noise, rubbish and parking - not, necessarily, in that order. So, I guess, it could well be that while you do see a few residential problems here it may be that there are a number of estates where the whole thing runs to the residents satisfaction. I honestly don't know. I can only comment on two estates from my own experience - and a few more from discussions with directors of other estates. We do speak, sometimes! Oh and our MA of course. Given the knowledge I have obtained from this forum it is something I chat about with them sometimes

It's, also, worth saying that, again from my own experience, there are those residents who while screaming loudly about parking restrictions would be banging on your door as a director demanding that you do something "this minute" about the b*****d who has just parked in their space. . Had that.....

To be honest, if my limited knowledge is anything to go by - like this case - these things need a quick fix. If you could nip it in the bud - be that by self ticketing or whatever - it would go away.

I agree with you btw about what would be in it for the PPC. I imagine they might give it a while and then shut you off.