87 year old Stairlift turned down by Council, need help in appeal

calleyw

If the op feels its that important then they can club together with other members of the family to pay for it. And doubtful the council will give permission for it to be fitted anyway.



When you have more net takers then givers you run in to massive problems. Which we are seeing now. For example when The NHS was founded it did not expect to be doing the diverse stuff it does now. It was to keep people healthy from the cradle to the grave. Average life expectancy was 62 in the 1940's when the NHS was founded.


The same goes now for council funding. It was never expected to pay for stair lifts etc. I can understand why they don't want to make the changes to what is a family home council/HA property. And once the 87 has died will be again. So why would they put a stair lift in to have to take it out again at some stage.



And, no my husband never made a full recovery and was left disabled and is now a burden on the state for the rest of his life. Who, when we split up moved to more suitable accommodation rather than keep a house that was too big and too much for him to deal with.


Also I thought peter barker was the op. he is not, so not sure what dog he has in this fight. But if he wants to supply everyone with the care they need. Then I am sure he wont mind paying an extra couple of pence on the pound in income tax to pay for it.


Yours


Calley x

antrobus

peterbaker wrote: »

It isn't the NHS that increased life expectancy in UK, it was merely access to modern medicines which come from the pharmacy not the doctor's surgery or hospital,

But pharmacies are part of the NHS.

What made you think they were not?

peterbaker

antrobus wrote: »

But pharmacies are part of the NHS.

What made you think they were not?

Don't be ridiculous - other than those in hospitals and a very few GP larger practices, they are private enterprises. Did you not realise at your ripe old age?? :rotfl:

Bonniepurple

No matter what your opinions are, the facts are this. An elderly woman is refusing to move from an unsuitable property because it has been her home for X years. My last house was a home for 11 years. It was social housing. When we had the opportunity to buy a bigger place, we did, so that someone else could benefit from the house in the way we did. I’m trying to persuade my father to move from a family home to a smaller property closer to me. Yes, it will be a wrench, leaving his home of over 40 years- but no stairs and nearer will mean less worry for me.

Our current house is suitable for now. We own. I want to extend and adapt it to ensure that it stays that way as long as possible - but if there comes a point when we are using a fraction of it I’d rather someone else had the opportunity to live in a family home.

peterbaker

Bonniepurple wrote: »

No matter what your opinions are, the facts are this. An elderly woman is refusing to move from an unsuitable property because it has been her home for X years. My last house was a home for 11 years. It was social housing. When we had the opportunity to buy a bigger place, we did, so that someone else could benefit from the house in the way we did. I’m trying to persuade my father to move from a family home to a smaller property closer to me. Yes, it will be a wrench, leaving his home of over 40 years- but no stairs and nearer will mean less worry for me.

Our current house is suitable for now. We own. I want to extend and adapt it to ensure that it stays that way as long as possible - but if there comes a point when we are using a fraction of it I’d rather someone else had the opportunity to live in a family home.

Glad to see you are minding your own business. Simples. Let others mind theirs.

jazzy

I thought that if an adaption request was a reasonable request, especially if self funded. The council/hosing association have to comply under the 2010 Equality Act?

elsien

In the case of the OP it won't be self funded. And moving to the other property offered could potentially also be considered a reasonable adjustment. They're not declining to meet her needs, just not in the way that she wouid prefer.

peterbaker

elsien wrote: »

In the case of the OP it won't be self funded. And moving to the other property offered could potentially also be considered a reasonable adjustment. They're not declining to meet her needs, just not in the way that she wouid prefer.

The council are being bloody-minded and for what? We are talking about an 87 year old for chrissakes. I hope some of you who think that's a reasonable way to run social care for the elderly, experience when you get to that age, the level of being pushed around that makes you feel very uncomfortable and depressed and no longer in control of your own destiny. We aren't all adaptable home-hoppers and some of us are more resilient than others. You might then learn something about fairness - or karma at any rate.

jazzy

More than likely if another place is offered it will take a very long time to find one that complies with the OT assessment and the chances are it will be on a rough estate. Not a nice way to treat a 87 year old lady.

tomtom256

jazzy wrote: »

More than likely if another place is offered it will take a very long time to find one that complies with the OT assessment and the chances are it will be on a rough estate. Not a nice way to treat a 87 year old lady.

A bit condescending on estates, not all are rough and many have 87 year olds living on them.

Most old council/social houses are on estates!