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'Guaranteed 12% return' on investment

My friends have a tidy sum to invest and are looking round for suitable places.

They have told me that they are meeting an advisor next week who is pushing a guaranteed 12% return on capital. The investment would be in hotels.

It all sounds dodgy to me, but has anyone here come across this type of investment and thinks it's kosher?
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  • Aren't Jewish hotels a slightly limited market?
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 11,085 Forumite
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    It's not guaranteed and never will be. Your friends will lose their money if it goes down

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • The best rate you can get for a no-risk fixed rate savings product is under 3%. Investments in the stock market (where returns are NOT guaranteed) can average 5% to 7% in the long term. If someone has found a guaranteed 12% return, why are they not making a fortune themselves? Why do they need to waste their time trying to convince suckers to part with their money?

    It may not be dodgy but it will likely be very high risk. Your friends need to think very hard about that before committing to it. It could well be dodgy.

    Just read this thread to find out what can happen when people believe it when someone says "guaranteed": https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5346049/london-capital-and-finance
  • Beenie wrote: »
    My friends have a tidy sum to invest and are looking round for suitable places.

    They have told me that they are meeting an advisor next week who is pushing a guaranteed 12% return on capital. The investment would be in hotels.

    It all sounds dodgy to me, but has anyone here come across this type of investment and thinks it's kosher?
    Please tell them to avoid at ALL costs!
  • AlanP_2
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    That adviser is a salesman.
  • Ask your friends to feign interest - then post the details of the investment on here.
  • masonic
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  • Beenie
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    Thank you for your sound advice.

    Our initial thoughts were 'that is too good to be true' and smelled a rat.

    We have told our friends of our misgivings (and will again after the advice here) but they are dead set on hearing this man. They are naive people who have come into a lot of money, and need some help. I will do my best.
  • It's probably one of these types of "investments"
    https://resortgroupinvestments.com/

    "MINIMUM *12% ANNUAL RETURNS"
  • These are usually schemes where the company ‘guarantee’ to top up the return (say on letting of hotel rooms) if they don’t meet the ‘expected’ returns. However invariably these companies fold within a very short period leaving their guarantee as worthless. And of course, the investor’s original sum lost forever.
    I'm not a lawyer, so this is just my opinion. Don't go acting on legal advice you get from a stranger on the internet!
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