Brand new home Energy bills seem to be extortionate

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  • [Deleted User]
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    @jason

    Please check the actual meter, not the in house display (IHD) for energy used.
    For the next week or so, take a daily reading from the actual meter at the same time. Then you can try to figure out what uses the energy.

    I do find 0.06kW very low for a computer (unless it is a laptop on charge). But you also have other devices on stand-by and running (router, fridge) so that IHD reading looks suspect.
  • brookheather
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    60W power usage for an idling computer is about right - a modern PC can use as low as 10-15W on idle (obviously more if it has a graphics card, multiple hard drives etc.) and a modern 24" 1080p monitor will use 15-20W when on.
  • Jasond
    Jasond Posts: 14 Forumite
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    Electricity
    Helpful Octopus 24M Fixed May 2018 v1
    Your fixed price ends on 28th September 2020

    Unit rate14.49p per kWh Standing charge26.09p per day


    but my 1st bill shows:
    Helpful Octopus Fixed
    Monthly Direct Debit 13.80p/kWh
    24.85p/day (£90.70/year)
    28th Sept. 2020 None
    Estimated Annual Usage 2762.6 kWh
    Your estimated annual cost £495.54 a year for electricity

    28th Sept. 2018 22nd Oct. 2018 Energy Used Standing Charge
    566.0 Opening reading
    760.0 Customer reading
    194.0 kWh @ 13.80p/kWh
    24 days @ 24.85p/day
  • Jasond
    Jasond Posts: 14 Forumite
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    edited 10 February 2019 at 3:36PM
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    compared to this months bill

    28th Dec. 2018 9th Feb. 2019 Energy Used Standing Charge
    1311.0 Customer reading
    1680.0 Customer reading
    369.0 kWh @ 13.80p/kWh
    43 days @ 24.85p/day
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 10 February 2019 at 3:50PM
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    The bill values for per kWh and standing charges are without VAT (5%) on the bill but stated with VAT in the first set you gave.
    So that works out.

    In the first 24 days, you averaged 8.1kWh used per day.

    Since it has risen to an average of 8.3kWh per day. (1685 units - 760 October reading divided by days since [111 days])

    Not a massive increase.

    And the last bill is only 8.5kWh averaged per day. People tend to use more energy in winter.
  • Robin9
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    Jasond wrote: »
    compared to this months bill

    28th Dec. 2018 9th Feb. 2019 Energy Used Standing Charge
    1311.0 Customer reading
    1680.0 Customer reading
    369.0 kWh @ 13.80p/kWh
    43 days @ 24.85p/day

    this is approx 9 units a day - 3200 units a year . This is above average.

    Cost £442 units + £91 standing charge + VAT = £560 ie £50 a month. You were underpaying and Octopus has adjusted the monthly DD to ensure you are in balance at the end of rthe fix.



    The In House Display IHD is misleading you - it seems to still be holding the BG tariff. Ignore and just read the meter in the outdoor meter box.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
  • Carrot007
    Carrot007 Posts: 4,534 Forumite
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    Robin9 wrote: »
    that is above average. 3300


    People keep saying that. But I find it unfeasably low for a modern household. Maybe for your gran with 2 sockets in the house for a fridge and a tv and a few lights.


    And of course averages are brought down by mainly empty properties.


    I would say 5000 a year is doing good for a 3 bed/2 people.


    Yesa I know manmy people on here disagree. Have solar panels and I might start to accept things a little, but there are so many ridiculously low users on here that they either never use anything electric (unrealistic) or they buy £1000 worth of battery's a year (silly).


    Anyway just my view that under 5000 is unrealistic for a "modern" household of that size.
  • Jasond
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    but how is it above average when there's nothing on in the house when im out, and when I am in I use only the tv or pc, and 2 eco LED lights?! thats what im not getting....

    this is the sort of usage you see when someones growing weed in every room in the house!

    im out the house 6-8 hours a day... I sleep for 8 hours a night... that leaving 8 hours of the house idling doing absolutely nothing other than keeping the fridgefreezer on.

    it makes no sense im using more power than a family of 3/4 who are in all day using all their electronics do you see where im coming from here?
  • Robin9
    Robin9 Posts: 12,107 Forumite
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    Jasond wrote: »
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    this is the sort of usage you see when someones growing weed in every room in the house! .........................

    Er - no

    You need to sit down and really look at what you have in your house ?

    Your 5 min (really ?) shower ; fridge/freezer - is it an American type with compressor running ? ; how do you cook ? ; only 2 LED on in evening (really ?) ; light left on in the attic ?

    Read your meter at the same times every day and keep records.
    Never pay on an estimated bill
  • Mister_G
    Mister_G Posts: 1,927 Forumite
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    As #Robin9 said earlier - Immersion Heater??
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