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Lidl (Athena) civil parking charge

Can anyone please help me with the best way forward here?

I parked in Lidl and once I reslised I was coming close to my 90 mins I bought a tin of cat food and scanned my receipt.

I then finished my full shop and loaded up, over staying by 27mins I also scanned the new receipt and have kept both.

Could it be possible that my ''elderly, infirm passenger'' took 27 mins to complete their shopping or am I peeing in the wind.

Today I got a PCN to the reg keeper.

What's my next move please?
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  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    BAGGY wrote: »
    Can anyone please help me with the best way forward here?

    I parked in Lidl and once I reslised I was coming close to my 90 mins I bought a tin of cat food and scanned my receipt.

    I then finished my full shop and loaded up, over staying by 27mins I also scanned the new receipt and have kept both.

    Could it be possible that my ''elderly, infirm passenger'' took 27 mins to complete their shopping or am I peeing in the wind.

    Today I got a PCN to the reg keeper.

    What's my next move please?

    COMPLAIN TO THE MD

    Mr Christian Härtnagel Managing Director

    Email Dispute.Resolution@lidl.co.uk


    Show receipts that you are a good customer and request this is cancelled
  • pogofish
    pogofish Posts: 10,853 Forumite
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    The Newbies Sticky will inform you fully and lay-out the steps you need to take now.

    First thing, would be a strong complaint to the store manager/CEO, with copies of the receipts but be careful not to reveal the driver.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,393 Forumite
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    Could it be possible that my ''elderly, infirm passenger'' took 27 mins to complete their shopping or am I peeing in the wind.
    Peeing in the wind, or lying through the teeth? Just so we know what we are actually advising on.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • MistyZ
    MistyZ Posts: 1,820 Forumite
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    As above .... no need to lie, there's always a way to fight based on what really happened.
  • pogofish
    pogofish Posts: 10,853 Forumite
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    Mind you, if they actually had an elderly or infirm passenger, they might be entitled to a reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act - which again is best addressed by a complaint to the MD.

    However, if not, then don't leave yourself open to further criminal charges - fight them with the proven tactics outlined here.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,393 Forumite
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    pogofish wrote: »
    Mind you, if they actually had an elderly or infirm passenger, they might be entitled to a reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act - which again is best addressed by a complaint to the MD.

    However, if not, then don't leave yourself open to further criminal charges - fight them with the proven tactics outlined here.

    Exactly why I asked the question to save any detailed response/advice for pursuing through the EA 2010. Too much to do, too little time to be wasting my time going up blind alleys.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • BAGGY
    BAGGY Posts: 522 Forumite
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    Not entirely 'old and infirm'. My sister who is 60+ and I got the hump with her faffing about so I went to the car.
  • BAGGY
    BAGGY Posts: 522 Forumite
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    Sent a strongly worded letter to Lidl, saying both driver and passenger were customers on the day, and they are writing to Athena to cancel it according to email today. At no time did I fess up to who was driving or make mention that there was a reason for overstaying the time limit, simply signed it as the registered keeper.

    Awaits reply from Athena

    Cheers all
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    The whole industry is a scam, relying on threats of court, and the public's ignorance of the Law, A bill is currently before parliament which will regulate the scammers, many of whom are ex-clampers.

    This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

    Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

    The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

    Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Second Reading in the Lords this month, and, with a fair wind, will l become Law later this year..

    All five readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 7-8 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,393 Forumite
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    Awaits reply from Athena
    That will be a rejection then. Not sure it's worth waiting for!

    It's Lidl you need to hear from.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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