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Zenith & DRP Letters - UKPC Parking Charge
whatmasaid
Posts: 1 Newbie
I received a parking fine on 07 July 2018 from UKPC and wrote back to them saying the following:
"You issued me with a parking ticket on 07/07/18 but I believe it was unlawfully issued. I refuse to name the driver, which is not required of me as the keeper of the vehicle. I will not be paying your demand for payment and I deny any liability for the following reasons:
•There was confusing signage
The road in question presented confusing signage which made it unclear whether the sign was referring to the road I was parked on or the car park behind the fence on which the sign was placed on. This failed to explain clearly what the relevant parking restrictions are (as required under the Road Traffic Act of 1991) and therefore means no contract can be formed with the landowner and the ticket was issued illegally. See supporting images for the signage which caused confusion as it was thought it was referring to the car park on which it was fixed on.
•No road markings
The road in question did not contain any road markings to suggest there were parking restrictions in place (as required by Schedule 6 of Traffic Signs Regulations 1994). Therefore, this failed to explain the parking restrictions in place and means no contract can be formed with the landowner and the ticket was issued illegally. See supporting images to show no road markings were present.
As the confusing signage & lack of road markings failed to inform me of what was required, no offence has been committed. I believe that you should exercise fairness in cancelling a ticket that, according to the guidance, is perfectly justified to be cancelled.
Should you fail to cancel this parking charge, I require with your rejection letter, a full explanation on each of the points raised, all images taken of this vehicle & the signs at the location that day. Do not withhold any images/data later relied on for POPLA/court.
If you choose to pursue me please be aware that I will not enter into any correspondence and this will be the only letter you will receive from me until you answer the specific points raised above."
UKPC then replied with the following automated email:
Thank you for your recent correspondence in relation to the above Parking Charge. On the date that the vehicle was parked in breach of the agreed terms and condition, you have told us that you were the Registered Keeper of the vehicle, but not the driver.
UK Parking Control Ltd have not received full payment for this Parking Charge and so invite you, the Registered Keeper of the vehicle to pay the unpaid parking charge, or if you were not the driver at the time, to notify us of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass all correspondence that we have sent relating to this charge to the driver.
If at the end of the period of 35 days from the date of this letter, the Parking Charge has not been paid in full or UK Parking Control Ltd do not know the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, then subject to the applicable conditions of Schedule 4 of the Protection of freedoms Act 2012, UK Parking Control may have the right to recover the unpaid parking charge from you, the Registered Keeper.
The Parking Charge has been on hold whilst on appeal and may now be settled at the reduced rate of £60.00 provided payment is received by us at the above address within 35 days of the date of this letter.
PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER. UKPC REGULARLY TAKES MOTORISTS TO COURT WHO IGNORE THEIR PARKING CHARGES. PLEASE SEE: *Link* FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.
I submitted the same appeal again and received the same rejection email, followed by another rejection letter which was different and contained a POPLA reference number (I believe I have lost this letter and never made a POPLA claim). Ever since, I have received 3 notices from DRP and 2 notices from Zenith Collections which I have all ignored.
What should my next steps be?
Should I continue to ignore the letters from DRP and Zenith?
"You issued me with a parking ticket on 07/07/18 but I believe it was unlawfully issued. I refuse to name the driver, which is not required of me as the keeper of the vehicle. I will not be paying your demand for payment and I deny any liability for the following reasons:
•There was confusing signage
The road in question presented confusing signage which made it unclear whether the sign was referring to the road I was parked on or the car park behind the fence on which the sign was placed on. This failed to explain clearly what the relevant parking restrictions are (as required under the Road Traffic Act of 1991) and therefore means no contract can be formed with the landowner and the ticket was issued illegally. See supporting images for the signage which caused confusion as it was thought it was referring to the car park on which it was fixed on.
•No road markings
The road in question did not contain any road markings to suggest there were parking restrictions in place (as required by Schedule 6 of Traffic Signs Regulations 1994). Therefore, this failed to explain the parking restrictions in place and means no contract can be formed with the landowner and the ticket was issued illegally. See supporting images to show no road markings were present.
As the confusing signage & lack of road markings failed to inform me of what was required, no offence has been committed. I believe that you should exercise fairness in cancelling a ticket that, according to the guidance, is perfectly justified to be cancelled.
Should you fail to cancel this parking charge, I require with your rejection letter, a full explanation on each of the points raised, all images taken of this vehicle & the signs at the location that day. Do not withhold any images/data later relied on for POPLA/court.
If you choose to pursue me please be aware that I will not enter into any correspondence and this will be the only letter you will receive from me until you answer the specific points raised above."
UKPC then replied with the following automated email:
Thank you for your recent correspondence in relation to the above Parking Charge. On the date that the vehicle was parked in breach of the agreed terms and condition, you have told us that you were the Registered Keeper of the vehicle, but not the driver.
UK Parking Control Ltd have not received full payment for this Parking Charge and so invite you, the Registered Keeper of the vehicle to pay the unpaid parking charge, or if you were not the driver at the time, to notify us of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass all correspondence that we have sent relating to this charge to the driver.
If at the end of the period of 35 days from the date of this letter, the Parking Charge has not been paid in full or UK Parking Control Ltd do not know the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, then subject to the applicable conditions of Schedule 4 of the Protection of freedoms Act 2012, UK Parking Control may have the right to recover the unpaid parking charge from you, the Registered Keeper.
The Parking Charge has been on hold whilst on appeal and may now be settled at the reduced rate of £60.00 provided payment is received by us at the above address within 35 days of the date of this letter.
PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER. UKPC REGULARLY TAKES MOTORISTS TO COURT WHO IGNORE THEIR PARKING CHARGES. PLEASE SEE: *Link* FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.
I submitted the same appeal again and received the same rejection email, followed by another rejection letter which was different and contained a POPLA reference number (I believe I have lost this letter and never made a POPLA claim). Ever since, I have received 3 notices from DRP and 2 notices from Zenith Collections which I have all ignored.
What should my next steps be?
Should I continue to ignore the letters from DRP and Zenith?
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yes ignore, like post #4 of the NEWBIES thread tells you to do
come back if you receive an LoC (LBC) and/or an MCOL within 6 years0 -
Zenith & DRP Letters
The NEWBIES thread begs for no threads about these, please, so let this thread die.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
As above, debt collectors can be ignored.
You can if you have time to waste ask for the PoPLA code again, quoting the relevant parts of the ADR Act 2015 that say you should be offered access to an independent appeals service for up to a year, then complain to the BPA, DVLA, and your MP if they refuse.
Please complain to your MP about this unregulated scam whatever else you do.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.
All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
UKPC are fraudsters
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html
It is the will of Parliament that these scammers, (very often former clampers), be put out of business.
Hopefully that will take place in the near future. The Bill has passed through the HOC without hitch, and goes to the Lords soon. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers.
This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.
Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct
The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.
Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.
All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
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