We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum. This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are - or become - political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
SORN Vehicle & Parking
Hi all,
First of all, let me wish you all the best in 2019.
My problem is following:
I received a very nice wish card this Christmas from DVLA. It says that I had been seen using my vehicle while it's declared as SORN, DVLA kindly asked me to pay £280 fine. So I replied them and sent my appeal as my vehicle is without working engine and I thought that it must have been either one of the Christmas miracles or some kind of mistake, I supported everything with photo evidence (as they sent me no CCTV evidence, just A4 full of text) + my statement.
I have received their reply today.
Let me quote:
"I have considered the information you have supplied, but as the law requires that any motor vehicle which is used or kept (i.e. parked) on a public road must be taxed." END OF QUOTE
This time they supplied a photo evidence. There is photo of the back of my car (with LP) and details such as Date/Time, GPS Code, Location of offence, Reference, etc.
As far as I know, a public road for DVLA is a road maintainable at public expense, to quote in full:
A SORN declaration is valid as long as the vehicle is not on a public road - a road maintainable at public expense - s.31B(3) & s.62, Vehicles Excise and Registration Act 1994.
My vehicle is parked on private land, there are signs everywhere, also you need a permit to access those premisses. So I'm getting pretty frustrated here as I don't get it.
I've just checked provided CCTV evidence and I found something very interesting. That photo was obviously taken in the car park where my car is parked in. The GPS coordinates are correct, but "Location of offence" doesn't correspond with those coordinates. There is completely different address, even a postcode is wrong. This might be my way out of this, or not?
Is any good soul here with experience with this willing to share advice and opinion?
Thank you in advance
T
First of all, let me wish you all the best in 2019.
My problem is following:
I received a very nice wish card this Christmas from DVLA. It says that I had been seen using my vehicle while it's declared as SORN, DVLA kindly asked me to pay £280 fine. So I replied them and sent my appeal as my vehicle is without working engine and I thought that it must have been either one of the Christmas miracles or some kind of mistake, I supported everything with photo evidence (as they sent me no CCTV evidence, just A4 full of text) + my statement.
I have received their reply today.
Let me quote:
"I have considered the information you have supplied, but as the law requires that any motor vehicle which is used or kept (i.e. parked) on a public road must be taxed." END OF QUOTE
This time they supplied a photo evidence. There is photo of the back of my car (with LP) and details such as Date/Time, GPS Code, Location of offence, Reference, etc.
As far as I know, a public road for DVLA is a road maintainable at public expense, to quote in full:
A SORN declaration is valid as long as the vehicle is not on a public road - a road maintainable at public expense - s.31B(3) & s.62, Vehicles Excise and Registration Act 1994.
My vehicle is parked on private land, there are signs everywhere, also you need a permit to access those premisses. So I'm getting pretty frustrated here as I don't get it.
I've just checked provided CCTV evidence and I found something very interesting. That photo was obviously taken in the car park where my car is parked in. The GPS coordinates are correct, but "Location of offence" doesn't correspond with those coordinates. There is completely different address, even a postcode is wrong. This might be my way out of this, or not?
Is any good soul here with experience with this willing to share advice and opinion?
Thank you in advance
T
0
Comments
-
If they aren’t going to back down have your day in court.0
-
If it's a private road and the parking is looked after by the council then I don't think there is much you can do about it.0
-
Who owns and maintains the carpark?0
-
-
sevenhills wrote: »Is the postcode for a totally different area? Google it, that may be your escape route.
Yes, totally. The car is parked in SE8 and there is SE15 in the letter. The closest SE15 address is about half mile away from the car. Btw, street name is not correct as well.0 -
If it's a private road and the parking is looked after by the council then I don't think there is much you can do about it.
Luckily, this is not the case. The car park is looked after by private company, there are no council wardens. The whole premisses are maintained by companies, council has nothing to do with it. The closest public road is about 60 meters from my car.0 -
As mentioned above, a private company, not the council.foxy-stoat wrote: »Who owns and maintains the carpark?0 -
Do you have the landowners permission to leave your car there long term?0
-
RichardD1970 wrote: »Do you have the landowners permission to leave your car there long term?
Doesn't really matter in relation to the original question.0 -
AndyMc..... wrote: »Doesn't really matter in relation to the original question.
Just wondered if maybe the landowner or someone had reported it to the council/police as abandoned.
If I owned a car park (especially so in London) and had random engineless cars left there I would try to get them removed.0
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 347.2K Banking & Borrowing
- 251.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 451.8K Spending & Discounts
- 239.5K Work, Benefits & Business
- 615.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 175.1K Life & Family
- 252.8K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards