Parking Eye £100 Fine - Welcome Break Warwick South

toffee_pie

Hi All,

Surprised to get this in the post yesterday - have done some googling and it looks like the driver can use lack of signage and identity of the owner as reasons to cancel this? can someone tell me if this is correct?

Below is a photo of the exact spot where the driver parked (from 4:09am to 8:59am on 31/12/17 - a long drive from Livepool to Southampton and shattered so driver pulled in for a sleep, and did not even see any signs and did not know if these parking spaces were free or not.

yes, its a scam and theese people need to be thought a lesson but the right words still need to get across to them to cancel these tickets.

driver was given the usual letter in the post wtih grainy images of my car in the location in the photo in total darkess with the number plate visible.

cheers guys

pogofish

Please start by having a good read on the Newbies Sticky - Then stick to your original thread!

toffee_pie

Will this response to PE do? or is this more suitable for POPLA? Note - my parking ticket mentions 29 days warning on the reverse of the ticket under protection of freedoms act

Re: PCN No. ....................

The driver believes that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in Parking Eye Ltd v Beavis. The signage where the keeper parked as visible from google maps show no signage at all with no clear indication as to whether or not fees apply or not

At 4am when this alleged offence occurred it could not be expected a tired motorist who wants a rest to go walking around a car park to see read signs.

The photos shown on the parking ticket are in total darkness with only the reg number illuminated, this clearly shows how dark the area is with no lightning.

Therefore, there will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.

Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.

I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.

Yours faithfully,

Redx

your addition needs spell checking plus its not an "offence as its a civil matter and I would maybe add to it as well, providing it is not a lease or hire vehicle ?

At 4am when this alleged contravention occured it could not be expected for a very tired motorist who wants a rest as per government safety warnings to go walking around a car park in the dark to find and read unlit signs that may or may not have been there.


The photos shown on the parking ticket are in total darkness with only the reg number illuminated, this clearly shows how dark the area is with no lighting.

also put a complaint in to WB about the same issues, but as KEEPER, no mentioning who was driving

Coupon-mad

If you have an additional thread about the same PCN, please let this one die and pick up the other one by replying on it at all stages.

It helps us to help you to see every post in one thread and for no new threads to be started at all about the same PCN.

toffee_pie

Aside from the poor (ie no) signage what about the 14 day period of receiving a ticket? this was borderline (ticket received on Jan 11th, occured on Dec 31st) since these crooks lie all the time can you say you got the ticket on the 14th.?

toffee_pie

Coupon-mad wrote: »

If you have an additional thread about the same PCN, please let this one die and pick up the other one by replying on it at all stages.

It helps us to help you to see every post in one thread and for no new threads to be started at all about the same PCN.

can a mod delete the other thread please? i stuck it in some completely different forum.

thanks for the advice above, I will reformat and update tomorrow

Coupon-mad

There are no Mods here.

But if you send a pm to soolin or Crabman, they will merge them here for you.

toffee_pie

can someone tell me how to contact these people? cant seem to get them in a search - also what are the thoughts about the date of the ticket, can I say it arrived after 14 days?

will get a draft done later today.
thanks

MistyZ

There may be a better way to contact the Admins, but if you go to the list of threads there's a post by crabman near the top of the list: 'The Parking Tickets Board Sticky' and you can message him by clicking on his avatar.

As for the 14 day thing, it's never a good idea to lie. This forum would soon lose credibility if lying were advised.

Umkomaas

toffee_pie wrote: »

can someone tell me how to contact these people? cant seem to get them in a search - also what are the thoughts about the date of the ticket, can I say it arrived after 14 days?

will get a draft done later today.
thanks

1. You'll find links to the Board Guides on this forum's first page (the one with the threads list) one page back from this one - hit your back button to get there. Then go to the bottom of the page, they're there on the r/h side.

2. The forum doesn't condone lying. We leave that to the parking companies.