UKPC Leaving site ticket

vipergreen

Received a ticket at Stevenage leisure park alleging driver left site.

Although the registration is correct the ticket has the wrong make of car listed, Any benefit in this mistake ?

Whilst at the leisure park the driver visited 2 establishments and has a receipt from one of those albeit this is time stated as 90 minutes after the ticket issue, there is no receipts from the first business which accounted for the earlier part of the stay.

I have read the newbie thread and have a query which I would be grateful for help on

The 25th day from ticket issue is next week and that is when I will submit the appeal but do I alter the template in any way as some of it doesn’t seem to apply to our situation ie leaving site, do I leave in the bits about meters etc .

Also do I mention the vehicle make error and also the receipt that I hold.

Many thanks for any help

Coupon-mad

You can remove the part about the VRN/machine.

Although the registration is correct the ticket has the wrong make of car listed, Any benefit in this mistake ?

No, it's deliberate by PPCs, to make people make silly knee-jerk appeals blabbing about who was driving and the make of their car!

Receipt goes with the complaint to the retail park owners, same time as the appeal, not to UKPC as they couldn't give a stuff. Google will tell you who owns/runs the place.

vipergreen

Thanks

What about the paragraph about overstaying, does that need to remain

Also pictures are on their appeal website together with a picture of the sign, although the pictures only show a parked car no one exiting it or leaving the site

Coupon-mad

Change the overstay paragraph to:

Kindly send me your photo evidence that led you to assert that the driver left the site, as this is denied. I have checked on your website and you have nothing.

beamerguy

vipergreen wrote: »

Received a ticket at Stevenage leisure park alleging driver left site.

Although the registration is correct the ticket has the wrong make of car listed, Any benefit in this mistake ?

The fraudsters UKPC still at this "driver left site" crap.

We know they fake pictures and hide behind wheelie bins and now they have to prove with photo evidence of this driver.
They have been banned twice by the DVLA

Interesting they state the wrong make of car .... opening the door to two cars but which car did the driver get out of and left the site

This is up to UKPC to prove, not you. I don't recall any case in court brought by UKPC about driver left site.

The other problem UKPC has with such a claim is the warden going around taking pictures of people, who knows what he is up to, The landowner could have problems.

With the faking of pictures, it was a UKPC warden who changed the time stamping on the pictures which was fraud.

Let's see how they handle the appeal, there is still POPLA and the ultimate is the judge and the same question will be asked ....
PROVE IT UKPC.

BE WARNED that UKPC do have more junk up their sleeves.
They have said before that they cannot give a POPLA code until the driver is named .....rubbish and that's why they are scammers and fraudsters. UKPC are on the bucket list

ratechaser

They really do love that "left site" nonsense at Stevenage don't they...

Not that I for one moment think it's got a hope in hell of ever succeeding in court, in my case I got it nipped in the bud by an email to the landowner (which a few years ago was Jones Lang Lasalle, but please recheck that yourself in case it's changed). Just pointed out - politely but firmly - the lack of signs, specifically the lack of clarity of what the 'site' actually was, and the fact that I was a regular customer of the leisure park. Was there today in fact!

Got an immediate reply confirming they would get UKPC to cancel, and that was that. Good luck.

vipergreen

The landowners agent still appears to be JLL , is there a suggested wording for my email that has proved successful
Thanks for all the info, great forum

The_Deep

A judge is unlikely to find that leaving site is a valid term in a consumer contract. Hopefully he will also be aware of their past form.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/

Let them take you to court where you can take them to the cleaners.

Complain to your MP as it is the will of Parliament that these scammers be put out of business.

Hopefully that will take place in the near future. The Bill has passed through the HOC without hitch, and goes to the Lords soon. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers.

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.

All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.

vipergreen

Can’t post the parking prankster link shown above as I’m a new user but

Is this still correct that UKPC can’t access the dvla database, if so why appeal ?

beamerguy

vipergreen wrote: »

Can’t post the parking prankster link shown above as I’m a new user but

Is this still correct that UKPC can’t access the dvla database, if so why appeal ?

That is an old link. UKPC can access the DVLA at the moment

Coupon-mad

vipergreen wrote: »

Can’t post the parking prankster link shown above as I’m a new user but

Is this still correct that UKPC can’t access the dvla database, if so why appeal ?

You should have searched the forum; you'd have soon found the thread about that temporary ban and when it ended.

The NEWBIES thread is up to date with what to do and when.