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My husband is on a No tax code and is due to be reassessed by the CSA for maintenance as he has just moved back in with me and we have two dependent children.

When they do a maintenance assessment they do it based on net earnings. Well at the moment as my husband has an NT tax code all his earnings are paid gross with what he should have paid in tax being paid by him at the bank to the receivers. As far as the CSA are concerned this is treated as disposable income and is included in the assessment and as a result end up with a higher payment.

He has a lovely caseworker at the CSA who I have been trying to explain it to but she just doesn't understand we just don't see this money.

Can anyone find any guidelines or legislation etc I can send off with his wage slips to explain this, as it doesn't seem fair?

If anyone could manage to post this on the CSA board too I would appreciate it.

Many many thanks.

Swampmonster:j

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  • fermi
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    How unfair.:mad: But typical of the CSA.:rolleyes:

    Can you get your husband's OR to write to the CSA caseworker pointing out his legal obligation to pay the tax to the OR/Trustee under the NT code IPA?

    I suspect the OR's office might have seen similar misunderstandings before.
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  • Swampmonster
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    He is not very confident on the phone and leaves everything to me.

    I'd be very grateful if anyone had anything I can print off to send with his wage slip explaining the NT code to the CSA, so they know this is not disposable income.

    Many Thanks
  • fermi
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    From: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/guidanceleaflets/ipoipa/ipoipa.htm

    Applying a 'Nil tax' code


    If you pay tax under PAYE, HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) will usually apply a 'nil tax' code to you for the rest of the tax year in which you were declared bankrupt. This means that soon after your bankruptcy, your employer will be told NOT to take any more income tax from your wages for the rest of the tax year. HMRC applies nil tax codes for various reasons, and the new tax code will not tell your employer you are bankrupt. The nil tax code does not mean no tax is due. It just enables HMRC to claim the whole of your unpaid tax for the year of your bankruptcy.

    There will be extra money in your pay because of the nil tax code. This money will form the basis of an IPA or IPO, even if you have no other real disposable income. A nil tax (or NT) IPA or IPO may be the only amount you have to pay, and the agreement or order will stop when your tax code changes. If you have other real disposable income, the IPA or IPO will reduce when your tax code changes.

    Example

    Say you were made bankrupt on 15 September 2006 and after all spending is deducted you have real disposable income of £300 a month. It is likely you will have an IPA or IPO to pay £150 a month for 36 months. If you were in PAYE employment, a nil tax code would mean your income for a short period would be higher than normal. Part of your IPA or IPO would be a nil tax IPA or IPO for the tax you would have paid if you have not been made bankrupt, say £400 a month In those circumstances you would pay £150 a month from the date of the IPA or IPO for 36 months, and an extra £400 from the date the HMRC gave you a nil tax code, up to and including March 2007 when the tax year ends (about 6 months).

    or from: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/TechnicalManual/Ch25-36/Chapter31/part7/part2/part_2.htm

    31.7.15 Income arising from nil tax (NT) coding

    Where bankruptcy occurs, HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC - formerly Inland Revenue) submits a claim in the bankruptcy proceedings for the whole of the outstanding tax due in that tax year, for both employed and self-employed individuals. The claim submitted in the proceedings by HMRC is dealt with in the same way as any other unsecured creditor. As a consequence of HMRC submitting this claim for outstanding tax in the year of bankruptcy, where the bankrupt is employed on a PAYE basis, HMRC applies a nil or no tax (NT) code to the bankrupt's salary for the remainder of the tax year in which the bankruptcy order was made. The NT code is applied to all income earned by the bankrupt after the bankruptcy order date, either until such time as there is a change in the bankrupt's source of income, or the tax year in which bankruptcy occurs comes to an end, whichever event is the earliest. This means the bankrupt does not pay any tax on his/her income whilst the NT code is in force and is thus in receipt of additional income to that received prior to the application of the NT coding.

    If the bankrupt changes income source/employer during the course of the tax year in which he/she is made bankrupt (which could include becoming self - employed having previously been PAYE employed), HMRC deems this to be a change in source of income, and a new tax code will be issued. The bankrupt will be required to pay tax on his/her earnings from the date of the change.For further information regarding what is meant by a change of income source refer to Chapter 77, Direct Taxation, paragraph 77.23, Nil tax codes and Chapter 77, Direct Taxation, paragraph 77.35,Taxation in the year a bankruptcy order is made. The bankrupt also becomes liable for tax again on any income received from the start of the tax year following the year in which bankruptcy occurs.

    The NT coding provision is not applied specifically to benefit the bankrupt by increasing his/her income. Instead, where a bankrupt is in PAYE employment, HMRC has to put itself in to the same position as would have been the case if the bankrupt had been self-employed (and not subject to PAYE), where tax would have been due at the date of the bankruptcy order. The NT code is therefore applied by HMRC where bankrupts are in employment, to ensure that the taxation of all individuals is dealt with on an equal basis.

    It has been agreed that electronic notification of the bankruptcy order (see paragraph 31.7.14) will cause the local tax office dealing with the bankrupt taxpayer’s affairs to identify where appropriate cases where the nil tax (NT) code will be applied, the application of the NT coding is not dependant on any manual notification from the official receiver to the tax office.

    The monies refunded as a result of the application of the NT code are a direct consequence of the making of the bankruptcy order and should therefore be available for the benefit of the bankruptcy estate. Where the NT code is expected to be applied before the end of the tax year, the additional income arising as a result of the application of the NT coding can be included when calculating the bankrupt's surplus income from which contributions can be collected under an IPA.

    It also possible that the increased income available to the bankrupt as a result of the application of the NT coding can in itself provide the basis for an IPA/IPO, even where the bankrupt does not have sufficient surplus for an IPA/IPO from his/her usual net income. Where the bankrupt has signed the TNIDIS form an IPA should be sought in preference to an IPO to claim the surplus income. In this instance an IPA would be agreed based solely on the additional income created by the NT coding, where the bankrupt agrees to IPA contributions equivalent to the amount of tax that he/she would otherwise have paid.

    In all cases, Section 310(2) [note 10] must still be taken into account when considering whether an IPA is viable to cover the period of the NT tax coding, to ensure that the bankrupt and his/her family are left with sufficient funds for their reasonable domestic needs. It may be that in very rare circumstances it will not be appropriate to require the bankrupt to consent to an IPA to collect the additional income resulting from the NT coding, if the bankrupt can demonstrate that this would cause him/her to experience financial hardship.

    The IPA which includes the income arising as a result of HMRC applying the NT coding should be drafted so that when HMRC recommences tax deductions from the bankrupt's income, the amount payable can be reduced accordingly or the agreement can be made such that the NT element of the IPA will only be collected during the period during which the NT coding takes effect.

    Where an NT IPA has been agreed and the bankrupt has signed the Tax and National Insurance Disclosure Authority (form TNIDIS) this can be forwarded to the local tax office with form IRNTC to request that HMRC forward notice of the NT coding to the official receiver's agents to enable them to commence collection of the NT IPA. (See also Case Help Manual part Income Payments Agreements vi "NT" tax code income payments agreements and income payments orders).

    With NT IPOs, there was a time problem in that where the bankruptcy order was made after the end of November of the tax year in question, it could be difficult to obtain the court order for the IPO quickly enough to merit such a course of action but this need not be the case with an IPA. When deciding whether an IPA is appropriate in order to collect surplus income arising as a result of the application of the NT coding, consideration should be given to the amount of tax the bankrupt pays each month and the time the local tax office is likely to take to implement the NT coding.

    In practice, it can take some time to implement the NT code and the bankrupt will then receive the overpayment of tax as a refund at the end of the tax year. Where such a tax refund arises due to delays in adjusting the bankrupt's tax code, it should be claimed by using the bankrupt’s duly completed authority TNIDIS which authorises the payment to the official receiver/trustee of income tax refunds payable for any year up to and including the tax year in which the bankruptcy order was made. The tax refund must not be claimed as after-acquired property.

    HMRC have confirmed that the application of the NT code to a bankrupt's income will not have any impact on a bankrupt's claim for working tax credits. Tax credits will continue to be paid at their existing rate regardless of the application of the NT coding unless the circumstances of the claimant (bankrupt) change (other than the application of the nil tax code). See Chapter 77, Direct Taxation, Part 7, Tax Credits for further information.

    For further information regarding tax and nil tax coding etc. see : Or from: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/freedomofinformation/technical/casehelpmanual/I/IncomePaymentsAgreements.htm

    vi ”NT” tax code Income Payments Agreements and Income Payment Orders

    When a bankruptcy order is made against an individual who is subject to PAYE, HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) applies a “nil tax” code to that person for the remainder of the tax year in which they were declared bankrupt and can then claim in the bankruptcy for the amount of tax which would have been collected (plus any other money owed for previous years), as long as the debtor does not change his/her source of income (i.e. gets a new job) during the tax year in which the bankruptcy order was made.
    Where the new tax code is expected to be applied before the end of the tax year an IPA/IPO should be obtained. Where the bankrupt has signed the form TNIDIS (Tax and NI Disclosure Authority), an Income Payments Agreement (IPA) should be sought in preference to an Income Payments Order (IPO), to claim the extra money that the debtor receives.
    An IPA/IPO can be made purely on NT tax code grounds and is not dependent on whether the debtor has any disposable income to make regular payments. However, the ability of the bankrupt to be able to afford his/her reasonable domestic needs and those of his/her family still must be considered for NT only IPAs/IPOs. On rare occasions an IPA/IPO may not be sought to recover the funds resulting from the application of an NT code.
    Once the NT tax code IPA/IPO is obtained the local tax office should be notified using form IRNTC (letter to re nil tax coding) enclosing a copy of the form TNIDIS. This letter asks HMRC to forward notice of tax coding to the official receiver’s agents, Clarke Willmott. They will then deal with collecting the amounts payable.
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  • Swampmonster
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    You're a star!:T

    That's just what I wanted.

    Thank you so much.

    Swampmonster
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